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Racist Anti-Semitism on the ‘Left’.

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Posted by  Abul Monsur “I  am a Muslim and will never support a wrong doing of another Muslim or Muslim nation.  Religion teaches us to be fair and just to ALL.” says he. 

This follows Ian Leask 

Criticism of the Rothschilds is starting to be suggested as antisemitic. Presumably by those who don’t like that criticism, and by friends of Israel who like to cover up the horrendous atrocities being undertaken by the Israeli state by branding that criticism as antisemitic too.

Well frankly I don’t give a damn where the Rothschilds come from or what religion they follow, if any, and I’m not drawing any comparison between them and the state of Israel either. All I can see is that the state of Israel is a grotesque terrorist fascist Apartheid Country, and the Rothschilds are obscenely rich and do indeed own personally, if not 80% of the World’s wealth, then an amount grossly out of proportion to their worth to the planet. There’s nothing antisemitic about that. Fuck it. If only these people getting all up tight about screwing things round to be antisemitic when they’re not, would also spend as much energy directing criticism of anti Islamic hate too. But that seems to be mainstream. In a decent society you should not tolerate either, but accept criticism where it is due.I campaign against Racism in any shape or form but when someone or group deserve to be critised for there actions against the morals of sociaty as a whole then I will speak out no matter who that individual or group Is!

Written by Andrew Coates

December 24, 2016 at 12:44 pm

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  1. Of course, according to the likes of Mr Tony Greenstein and Ms Jackie Walker, anti-Semitism is not a problem on the left (or, indeed, anywhere else). It’s all just been got up and “weaponised” in oprder to stifle criticism of Israel.

    Jim Denham

    December 24, 2016 at 1:18 pm

  2. Their letter to the Guardian, helpfully with their two names, Greenstein and Walker at the head (the absence of certain names tells volumes), says,

    ” The new definition (of anti-semitism Andrew Coates) has nothing to do with opposing antisemitism, it is merely designed to silence public debate on Israel’s crimes against the Palestinians. Antisemitic incidents comprise about 2% of all hate crime. Why then the concentration on antisemitism and not on Islamophobia, which is far more widespread? The suspicion must be that the real concern is not with antisemitism but with Britain’s support for Israel.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/dec/16/new-antisemitism-definition-silences-israels-critics

    Islamists and anti-semites are not a problem.

    Or are them pesky Rothschilds also something to reckon with?

    Andrew Coates

    December 24, 2016 at 1:46 pm

  3. What is the “We are Committed to Voting Labour site”? Google can’t find it. Is it something official and important?

    Francis

    December 24, 2016 at 2:53 pm

  4. https://www.facebook.com/groups/433467063521152/

    Wishing all 5400 Plus Members( WOW) 🙂 🙂 🙂

    Tony Greenstein shared a link to the group: We are committed to voting labour in 2020.

    Andrew Coates

    December 24, 2016 at 5:38 pm

  5. Galloway has already beaten this point into the ground.

    Dean

    December 24, 2016 at 8:44 pm

  6. Tony Greenstein is the main reason that the Weekly Worker has become increasingly hard to read. Moishe Machover used to write for WW more often, and he’s always worth a read, but Greenstein? Ranting raving loony bird.

    jschulman

    December 26, 2016 at 3:50 am

  7. Totally agree, Jason.

    Ross Wolfe

    December 26, 2016 at 4:19 am

  8. Yes.

    The WW does have some good articles in it but TG’s stuff is sub-literate cack.

    Andrew Coates

    December 28, 2016 at 11:22 am

  9. Excellent response to Greenstein, Walker & co in the Graun (published 19 Dec):

    I was shocked by the letter (17 December) from Tony Greenstein and others about the government adopting the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance definition of antisemitism. The letter said: “The new definition has nothing to do with opposing antisemitism, it is merely designed to silence public debate on Israel’s crimes against the Palestinians. Antisemitic incidents comprise about 2% of all hate crime. Why then the concentration on antisemitism and not on Islamophobia, which is far more widespread?”

    Those assertions are all either misleading or false and seem to say that antisemitism in Britain doesn’t matter. It is true that religiously based hate crime represents a very small percentage of all hate crime. In 2015 out of about 66,000 hate crimes in the UK, about 5,000 were on grounds of religion and, of those, about 1,000 attacks each were antisemitic and Islamophobic. Both types of attack are as abhorrent as each other. The British Jewish population is less than 10% of the size of the British Muslim population, so the Jewish community is facing far more frequent racist attacks pro rata than the Muslim community. In fact, the attacks on the Jewish community are concentrated on those who are easily identified as being Jewish, including those going to or from Jewish community centres, events or synagogues. Secular Jews are frequently unaware of such attacks.

    The new definition of antisemitism that the government has adopted specifically states that “criticism of Israel similar to that levelled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic”. It does, however, define “applying double standards by requiring of it a behaviour not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation” as antisemitic. Is that what they want to do?

    There is nothing in the new definition that would stifle legitimate criticism of Israel. When unjustified criticism of Israel is published in the media, such as the false report of a massacre in Jenin, antisemitic attacks in the UK increase, so this new definition is needed. Islamophobia does not increase in response to reports of the Israel-Palestine dispute. It does increase in response to reports of jihadi attacks in the west. That is also unfair on Muslims in Britain who are strongly opposed to terrorism. But it is no reason to make light of antisemitism in Britain.
    Stephen Franklin
    London

    Jim Denham

    December 28, 2016 at 7:01 pm


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