Atzmon and the Confederacy of Zionist Dunces
Pin-Up Boy.
“When a true genius appears, you can know him by this sign: that all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.”
Jonathan Swift.
Harry’s Place does not underplay Atzmon’s délire.
Loath as we are to publicise, or indeed to comment, on the controversy, this has to be cited (Hat-Tip from the totalitarian Gulag lefty Tendance to Gene, original from here)
“Behind the headlines – conspiracies, cover-ups, ancient mysteries and more.”
“Ahead of the publication of my “The Wandering Who” the entire Zionist network is in a total panic. Veterans Today’s senior Editor Gordon Duff commented yesterday that just a ‘few books have been opposed as this one has’. He may as well be right.”
“By Sunday night the Guardian published an appalling piece by one Andy Newman of Swindon , who, according to one of his “Socialist Unity” editors, attacked Atzmon simply to appease the relentlessly Islamophobic “Harry’s Place” public.”
“In a final desperate attempt to jeopardize the publication of the book and to silence its author. Richard Seymour AKA ‘Lenin Thumb’, authored a new anti Atzmon manifesto
“I read Richard ‘Lenin’ Seymour’s text with interest and found out that for some reason, both ‘avant-garde revolutionary’ Seymour’s text, and Guardian’s ‘socialist’ Andy Newman’s drivel are suspiciously far too similar to the unforgettable ‘Aaronovitch Reading Atzmon’ performance at the Oxford Literature Festival. “
“Zionism clearly maintains and sustains its ‘radical left opposition’ and the logos behind such a tactic is simple- ‘revolutionary’ left is totally irrelevant to both the conflict and its resolution. Hence, Zionists cannot dream of an easier opposition to handle. When the Zionists detect a dangerous rising intellect who aims at the truth, they obviously utilize and mobilize the Jewish left together with the few willing Sabbath Goyim executioners to gatekeep the emerging danger. Seymour, Newman and a just few others are always happy to slay the emerging intellect.“
“On the Jewish best seller list, it is even more popular than the Babylonian Talmud and the Torah. I guess that this is indeed a great concern for Zionists and their stooges, but there is nothing they can do about it.”
Indeed…..?
Tendance Coatesy 
DUMB ASS RABBIES
JEWS
IN MOUNT SINAI ( EGYPT )
PROPHET MUSA
FOUND OUT THAT
ALL OF HIS GOLD STOLEN BY HIS PEOPLE WERE USED TO MADE A SCULPTURE
( ASS STATUE ) CALLED
YAHWEH & THEY LABELLED IT AS THEIR
NEW GOD
INSTEAD TO BELIEVED
IN GOD OF PROPHET MUSA THAT HAPPENED ABOUT 6000 YEARS AGO
NOW LOOK AT THOSE ASSHOLE RABBIES ZIONIST ISRAEL TERORIST BRIGAND CRIMINALS WHO OCCUPIED PALESTINIANS
LAND NOW WORSHIP RACIST’S WALL WITH LABEL GOD AS THEIR NEW GOD
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UNDER SKIES TO OBEY ALLAH LAWS
HELL TORMENT CREATED
BY ALLAH STILL BURNING THEIR CRIMINALS ANCESSTORS
& HELL TORMENT WILL NEVER RUNNING OUT OF FUELS
TORMENT FOREVER&EVER
dzul
September 30, 2011 at 11:26 am
Thank you for your comment – Atzmon (?). It confirms everything I’ve always thought about such ideas.
Andrew Coates
September 30, 2011 at 11:45 am
Once upon a time the radical left was about struggle against our rulers. Socialists/communists/anarchists saw their task as uniting working people, i.e. internationalism and class unity were always at the forefront.
The modern PC left is entirely different. They are more interested in multiculturalism, identity and everything else that divides us. I.e. tribalism.
Richard Seymour is a case in point. Despite being a member of a party that once called itself the International Socialists, he hates internationalism. He dismisses anyone who argues against sectarianism and identity politics as “an islamophobe” or “an antisemite” or a “white supremacist fascist”.
If Gilad, with his attack on Jewish tribalism, has helped put us back on track, then good for him.
Buenaventura Durruti
September 30, 2011 at 2:23 pm
I agree that Richard Seymour’s politics are poor stuff. He is very unclear about identity politics (which he defends under the guise of a version of diversity/multiculturalism). In particular he ignores the progressive tradition of left secularism.
The SWP’s internationalism has become similarly compromised over the last years.
But Atzmon is plainly insane, and fully of conspiracy drivel, as these statements – which I find amusing in the way watching Peep Show is – show.
Andrew Coates
September 30, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Writing off Atzmon as insane neutralises the political challenge it presents. He has his supporters, who either agree with him or are afraid to rupture relations with Jew-phobic elements in the anti-Zionist spectrum. This comes just as vocal parts of the Jewish community are beginning to buck the Likud/right line.
Jew-hating isn’t just nuts – it’s fodder for fascists on either side of the Israel-Palestine divide.
ethan young
September 30, 2011 at 9:22 pm
Yes Ethan.
But he is clearly not well.
Andrew Coates
October 1, 2011 at 10:14 am
The pic of Richard Seymour shows him recruiting to a dinner in the Savoy Grill ca 1930.
Rosie
October 1, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Rosie, anyway, I thought it was rather more fetching than the one you posted on Shiraz Socialist.
As people have been saying – that is more visual material than most of us would care to have lingering in the mind.
Ethan, and what would this minor adjustments be?
Actually I can’t help but reminded of another odd figure.
“Dieudonné M’bala M’bala (born 11 February 1966), generally known simply as Dieudonné, is a French comedian, actor and political activist.
Initially a leftist and anti-racism activist, he has moved to the far right of the political spectrum of France, developing close political and personal relationships with the Front National party and its leader Jean-Marie Le Pen as well as with prominent Holocaust deniers such as Robert Faurisson; however, he claims to be leading a ‘justified fight’ against Zionism, and Israel which he deems racist and oppressive.Dieudonné has been condemned in court several times for antisemitic remarks (see below “Court convictions”). Since 1997, Dieudonné has regularly stood in parliamentary and European Union elections as a candidate at the head of fringe or splinter parties, and has tried and failed to run for two French presidential elections (2002 and 2007).” (from Wikipedia)
Andrew Coates
October 1, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Not well!? I write from a foreign shore. With a few minor adjustments Atzmon could be the Republican front-runner.
Ethan Young
October 1, 2011 at 3:42 pm
A fake birth certificate…
Ethan Young
October 1, 2011 at 4:07 pm
‘dzul’ has only what be described as a unique take on the Atzmon post.
There also appears to be a lower-key issue on dzul’s part; either that, or the Caps Lock key isn’t working.
kevb
October 2, 2011 at 7:48 am
Is there some significance in the word ’emerging’ – I feel it has some particular resonance which I can’t pin down. Is it used in rather fascistic discourse? Is it Deleuzian?
s4r4hbrown
October 2, 2011 at 8:40 am
“Deleuze and Collaborative Writing
30 Jun 2011 … This book is an engagement with Gilles Deleuze and collaborative writing. … We
ask here: how might we think of collaborative writing if we think with the … same
Being, and at the same time, that we are multiple and emergent. ”
“Deleuze et Laruelle. … nouveau type avec les philosophes, et productrices de
possibilités de pensée émergentes. …
In any case ’emergent thinker’ seems like an expression dreamt up in another language than English.
Andrew Coates
October 2, 2011 at 12:00 pm
The term “emerging thinker” conveys an image of some kind of worm-like creature poking its head out of a hole, the rest of the slimy body to follow.
Rosie
October 2, 2011 at 12:18 pm
As in: “writhe, wrestle, wriggle, worm, squirm, twist
to move in a twisting or contorted motion, (especially when struggling)
Synonyms: turn, sophisticate, squirm, pervert, sprain, wrestle, rick, twist, bend, wrick, wrench, wind, distort, curve, deform, convolute, worm, twist around, twine, flex, wriggle, writhe ” ?
Andrew Coates
October 2, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Thanks – I’ve pinned down, I think, one reason I responded to the word ’emerging’ in this way – it’s because there’s a CiF commenter called ’emergingmaster’ which (without reference to his views, which I haven’t really noted) strikes me as rather sinister somehow.
s4r4hbrown
October 2, 2011 at 1:42 pm
I’m sure it is Sarah – or rather it’s that kind of faux-shivering menace that total nutters on the conspiracy circuit like to evoke.
Mind you in other contexts emerging has none of these links.
In French ‘pays émergents’ is simply the normal (though ‘correct’ way since the 1980s) of describing developing countries that have reached a certain level of GNP.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pays_%C3%A9mergents
Andrew Coates
October 3, 2011 at 10:34 am
“Afraid to rupture relations with Jew-phobic elements in the anti-Zionist spectrum” says Ethan Young. Are you kidding? The only fear which holds back Palestine solidarity is the opposite – fear of anti-Semitism. It is this fear which leads to these cowardly attacks on Atzmon, who has pushed so many buttons. Who are these ‘Jew-phobic’ elements with which Atzmon’s supporters are ‘afraid to rupture relations’?
Jay Knott
October 16, 2011 at 5:38 pm
People who, like Atzmon, believe Jews as a group are evil, based on either racial or conspiracy theories, which ultimately have the same effect.
Ethan Young
October 16, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Ethan – that’s not what Atzmon believes. He has no biological theory of race at all. He describes the differences between being born to Jewish parents, Judaism, secular Jewish identity and Zionism. The first two he doesn’t criticize at all. I think most people on this page agree that the last, Zionism, is a bad thing. But what about the third? That’s where Atzmon has half the left in a panic. Good on him, I say.
‘Ultimately have the same effect’ is a bit of a broad statement. What ‘effect’ do Atzmon’s theories have? In what way are these effects the same as those other theories you darkly hint at?
Jay Knott
October 16, 2011 at 6:12 pm
as I said, whether racial- or conspiracy-based, attacking Jews as a group has the same effect. What is attacking secular Jewish identity if it is not attacking Jews as a group? Is identifying as a Jew a psychological disease that forces Jews to be Zionist? How is it cured? Who does the curing?
You’re pushing a tissue cover for Jew-bashing. It’s the opposite of everything democratic and liberating.
Ethan Young
October 16, 2011 at 6:30 pm
I understand what you’re getting at, but pointing out how Jewish identity led numerous ‘Jews for…’ type Palestine solidarity groups to be more concerned about Jews that Palestinians is not ‘attacking Jews as a group’. Is criticizing the effects of white identity on anti-racism ‘attacking whites as a group’? Ah, but whites aren’t oppressed, you might say. Well, neither are Jews. There is no ‘Jew-bashing’ today, as you seem to think. The pc left is inconsistent on this issue.
Jay Knott
October 16, 2011 at 6:41 pm
of course there’s Jew-bashing. There’s Jew-hating all over, not least among Christian Zionists. In the US Jews are more accepted than Arabs, and anti-Jew language more circumscribed, but they remain a target, even more so in Europe & Asia. The comparison to white identity has nothing to do with the relation of Jews to each other or to other groups.
Zionism gained hegemony among Jews after WW2. The persecution of secular (& religious) Jewish leftists in the 50s undercut opposition to Israel’s hard right in the long run. Now opposition is popping up and you challenge it for indulging in self-interest. This doesn’t help the Palestinians; it only helps Bibi & Jew-haters everywhere.
Ethan Young
October 16, 2011 at 6:52 pm
“Now opposition is popping up and you challenge it for indulging in self-interest. This doesn’t help the Palestinians…”. Ah yes, the old “doesn’t help the Palestinians” line. And what does help them, pray tell?
Challenging the efforts of Jewish Voice for Peace to control the speakers at the recent Move Over AIPAC conference in DC, to make sure they weren’t too critical of Israel, doesn’t help the Palestinians? Exposing the attempts of ‘Jews against Zionism’ types in Britain to censor debate, and paint all criticism of Jewish power as fascism, doesn’t help the Palestinians? I know of a few Palestinians who disagree…
Jay Knott
October 16, 2011 at 7:08 pm
I get your drift.
Ethan Young
October 16, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Here’s Jay Knott’s drift:
http://american3p.org/leadership/
Kevin MacDonald, like Atzmon a great thinker on the Jewish Question according to Jay Knott on Pacifica Forum.
TRay
October 17, 2011 at 9:59 am
You guys are dwindling on the edge of stupidity.
There is a clear difference between being Jewish by blood and being a Zionist.
And to any muppet that thinks the Zionists (be they Jews or otherwise) do not influence politics in the US, must be hooked on Crystal Meth.
The fact that a US Presidential candidate cannot get into the Whitehouse without the Zionist Jewish lobby says it all. Whats the first thing Obama did after becoming president? He stood in front of AIPAC pledging his allegiance.
Its ridiculous that you can gef jail time for being a holocaust revisionist. Anyone who is critical of the Zionists gets labelled anti-semetic.
Jobe
February 25, 2012 at 3:09 am
“Kevin MacDonald, like Atzmon a great thinker on the Jewish Question according to Jay Knott on Pacifica Forum” – TRay
Not quite. Anyone with a brain can find the useful stuff about Jewish leftist intellectual influence and hypocrisy (liberal on all issues bar Israel) in MacDonald’s “Culture of Critique” trilogy while utterly rejecting his views on race, riots, and numerous other issues. I’ve made clear on ‘Pacifica Forum’ where I agree with, and where I disagree with, the guy, and since TRay has read my posts, he or she should answer me more honestly.
Jay Knott
February 25, 2012 at 6:28 am
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