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Charlie Hebdo, Islamism, British Liberals and the Left.

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A Leftist satirical weekly is burnt to the ground.

It offended a right-wing religious movement.

The religious movement, or varieties of it, holds power in large and wealthy countries and is present, in strength, in other lands, supported by the pious bourgeoisie, appealing to wider constituencies through charity work and appeals to identity based on its creed.

A new government, installed with Western military help, identifies with this faith-movement.

It has just taken measures to restrict women’s rights as part of a wider plan to set up a repressive legal system.

Another government, freely elected, is just forming, with the power to write a country’s constitution in line with this religion’s beliefs. It has a background in a hard-line version of this political religion.

Some of these movements are ultra-conservative. Some are of these are viciously reactionary and reject all forms of democracy. Others have a moderate side and accept winning power by the ballot box.

They all share certain core ideas, and consider that they are simply right. They all want criticisms of their faith, and its prophet,  placed within limits, – though they differ on these boundaries. Some would kill anyone who goes beyond what they consider acceptable.

All of these movements are pro-markets, some of them are pillars of the global capitalist system. Two new ‘post-revolutionary’ leaderships are ready to implement neo-liberal economic programmes.

The satirical magazine’s present Editor is a Communist sympathiser. The journal’s writers include anarchists, socialists, greens, liberals and the plain bloody-minded.

How do British liberals and the left react?

Largely by trying to ignore the event.

The few that comment moan that the paper is extremely rude and in bad taste

That it attacks the ‘moderate’ governments of this religious movement.

That because this movement has poor and oppressed supporters in Europe this means that nobody can satirise this right-wing ideology.

Boo hoo.

We love you Charlie!

 Charlie, y’a des anglais qui t’aiment quand même! (Charlie Blog Here)

Meanwhile L’Humanité has published a dignified and beautiful Islamic  representation of the Prophet from the time when this was permitted.

Le Prophète, monté sur sa jument à tête de femme et guidé par l’ange Gabriel. BNF.

Written by Andrew Coates

November 4, 2011 at 11:12 am

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  1. Do you think in 400 years time we’ll be celebrating “bonfire night” on the 9th September and burning Osama’s instead of Guy’s? Tomorrow we celebrate the failure of Catholic terrorism to assasinate the Government, by ritually burning a Catholic and setting off small explosives. Weird when you think about it.

    Paul Norton

    November 4, 2011 at 11:19 am

  2. Explosive thoughts! Although my blog is not religious or political as this posting is, I have just added a poll to help my research about Islam and wondered if you and your readers would like to take part? It is blunt, basic and quick! The link is:

    http://kenthinksaloud.wordpress.com/2011/11/03/thoughtful-debate/

    Thanks for considering this. It is really helpful!

    kenthinksaloud

    November 4, 2011 at 12:54 pm

  3. We are not free and we don’t have freedom of speech.

    Though I condemn the violent reaction, I can understand that muslims would feel offended by the drawing of Mohammed. The publisher knew what they were doing when they published this and are most likely enjoying the extra publicity.

    I would prefer to live in a more “liberal” world where freedom of speech is not punished so harshly but I cannot force my “liberal” beliefs on to others just as they fail to force their extremist views onto me. It is not for non-muslims to decide whether it is offensive to draw their prophet.

    3blogshighandrising

    November 4, 2011 at 4:36 pm

    • I have no doubt your feelings are genuine High and Rising, but what exactly are they?

      That cartoonists and writers are – perhaps it’s a surprise – self-publicists is not the issue.

      Do you condemn the fire-bombing of Charlie Hebdo or not?

      Should any religious group be allowed to attack violently anyone expessing views they find offensive?

      The only liberal views on this that I have are those expressed by Voltaire and by John Stuart Mill – and endorsed by the democratic left as absolutely fundamental to free existence.

      That is, the right to do or to say anything that is not harmful to others should be not just allowed but defended.

      ‘Harmful’ does not include wounding people’s religious feelings.

      Voltaire’s Traité sur la Tolérance (1763) declared war on religious intolerance.

      That battle is not over yet.

      Andrew Coates

      November 5, 2011 at 12:38 pm

  4. Could you clarify which religious movement you are talking about? Could you clarify which countries you are talking about? Could you clarify for me the difference between religious bigotry about catholics (of the kind associated let us say with Ian Paisley) and the right to criticism of religion? Should socialists support both?

    johng

    November 12, 2011 at 10:03 am

    • Obviously Johng you have not been keeping up with events in France.

      The Islamists’ – spare me the faux naive question – (and we are pretty certain about this) attack on our Charlie comes at the same time as a Catholic far-right protest at the showing of “Sur le Concept du Visage du fils de Dieu” (“On the Concept of the Son of God’s Face)”

      I have covered them both.

      The issue here is freedom to criticise religion, not for one religion to criticise another.

      I fail to see the relevance of Paisley in this particular fight, though what do you mean? That any bigotry should be banned? Have you every thought of hwo far-ranging this would be? Apart from the Protestants have you ever seen the Islamists’ bigoted campaigns against Hindus in Bangladesh? Or the Hindu stuff on Moslems?

      What are you proposing?

      And re. comments about Islam, I suggest you have some contact with Tunisian leftists: my remarks are pretty mild by comparison with their hatred of Ennahda.

      Andrew Coates

      November 12, 2011 at 11:21 am

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