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Stop the War Coalition Challenges “the idea that (invasion of Ukraine) is “a battle between “Western civilisation and Russian degeneracy.”

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Stop the War Coalition…..

(I note that after being widely mocked for having the likes of Tariq Ali posing as experts on Ukraine the StWC had finally got a Ukrainian people to speak, a pacifist Yuri Sheliazhenko and, “Ukrainian activist Oksana Solomou (who) said her home city of Chernihiv had been “60 percent destroyed by the Russian invasion” and that “40 percent of houses had been destroyed”. But she opposed Nato intervention. ” *).

Socialist Worker.

Around 400 people joined an online teach-in on Saturday analysing the roots and consequences of the war in Ukraine. It was organised by the Stop the War Coalition, which opposes the Russian invasion but also calls for no Nato escalation

The size of the meeting shows there is an audience for those who do not go along with the dominant idea that the only villain is Vladimir Putin and that Nato is some sort of humanitarian body. The meeting was supposed to be a physical event, but the spread of Covid forced it on to Zoom. This restricted the opportunities for interchange of views, but it was still a useful event.

(Name the other villains!)

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Chris Nineham, the vice-chair of the Stop The War Coalition, said the invasion had been a “disaster for the people of Ukraine but also for those in the region and across the world”. 

But he challenged the idea that it was a battle between “Western civilisation and Russian degeneracy” (has anybody ever ever said that?). Instead he argued the need to recognise that “rivalries of big power competition” are central. He said the West’s propaganda was “shockingly hypocritical, Eurocentric and amnesiac, an attempt to bury the history of what they have done”. 

He said the anti-war movement in Britain had been on the streets and would “need to do it again”. But he said that there was also a need for “education and organisation—public meetings and teach-ins”. 

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Rob Ferguson, a member of the Socialist Workers Party (SWP) and the Stop the War Coalition steering committee, spoke. He said that the West’s manoeuvres had intensified the divisions and hostilities in Ukraine. He particularly pointed to the Bucharest Nato summit of 2008 that welcomed Georgia and Ukraine’s “aspirations for membership” and had led almost immediately to war in Georgia.”

So, it is Nato to blame all along.

Building the anti-war movement is vital to stopping the horrors of the war in Ukraine

Read this perisher’s puff…..

march for Ukraine

rob marsden reports on Saturday’s protest in ‘Solidarity with Ukraine’.

Written by Andrew Coates

March 27, 2022 at 3:03 pm

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  1. Stop the War Coalition are a busted flush. Their march of 3 weeks ago was dwarfed by the Ukraine Solidarity Campaign march of Saturday. The loss of the 11 Labour MPs on that signed statement hobbled them from the offset. Brilliant tactical move by Starmer to threaten withdrawal of the Whip . Campaigns* like StWC are reliant on sitting Labour MPs active participation. With that gone they are just a collection of aging Trots and Tankies.

    * I deliberately used the word Campaign and not United or Popular Front. The latter terms apply to the 1920s and 1930s when there were truly mass Communist and Socialist parties with millions of members and a “dual power” party infrastructure. Working class conciousness was also high and it even extended to be Revolutionary in parts. None of that exists today so these groups like StWC and SUTR should be described as campaigns. Campaigns of course can be effective but to call them anything else inflates their political significance.

    IainF

    March 27, 2022 at 3:56 pm

    • As you know Counterfire were fond of calling the StWC a United Front and using the expression ad nauseum to describe various pressure groups they were in a position to control, that is in the material for a left audience.

      The fact that they publicly use the US expression ‘coalition’ a lot, not just for the StWC but for the group that preceded the People’s Assembly (in our context always associated with Continental European governments, not to mention, later, the Lib-Dem coalition) is another indication of inappropriate language.

      Andrew Coates

      March 27, 2022 at 8:24 pm

  2. There is also a set of essays in LRB on the conflict using a pool of normal old and more recent LRB stalwarts. They are of variable quality. Ones that I read more than once are a piece by James Meek which sees a post settlement Putin regime morphing into 21st century Brezhnevism, one by Neal Ascherson seeing any settlement as reigniting invasions and incursion around the Black Sea statelets an a new aggressive Georgia, some STWC lite and one weird one by Owen Hatherley who sees everything around the threat to neo constructivist architecture in Kviv and Kharkov. The one that stands out however is one of only two Ukrainians cited; Olena Stiazhkina. She is a historian at Kviv Uni, and although her tone is jarring (she writes like a resurrected Ilya Ehrenburg) it is electric if jarring and her hatreds run very deep indeed. I suspect that this conflict has created many more Olenas. See; https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v44/n06/on-ukraine/day-5-day-9-day-16#olena-stiazhkina

    David Walsh

    March 27, 2022 at 6:01 pm

  3. How about ‘London stands with the Azov battalion’ whose leader has just been killed in Mariupul incidentally.

    Strange how those who always went on about antisemitism have now fallen silent.

    The Ukraine War – Who is Responsible for the Carnage?
    Putin has fallen into the trap that Biden laid for him
    https://tonygreenstein.com/2022/03/the-ukraine-war-who-is-responsible-for-the-carnage/

    I would also point you to the comments of Eduard Dolinsky that Ukraine is the most antisemitic country in Europe after Poland. strange how the Zionists here have gone silent But when it comes to genuine neo-Nazis Zionism is not interested. It is a pro imperialist agenda that counts

    Tony Greenstein

    March 28, 2022 at 2:30 pm

    • So you have taken to retweeting Galloway’s outfit…what next Gerry Downing?

      Faith leaders in Moldova have been serving hot kosher meals to Ukraine’s Jewish refugees.
      An estimated 3.7 million Ukrainians who have fled their country following Russia’s invasion.
      This story was produced in partnership with the Pulitzer Center.

      CHISINAU, Moldova – Olena Khorenjenko rolled her eyes at the idea that Nazis control her homeland, the baseless assertion Russian President Vladimir Putin made to defend his deadly military assault on Ukraine.

      An Orthodox Jew born in Kyiv, Khorenjenko said she has never faced any organized or even casual discrimination in daily life. And she has certainly never seen any evidence of Nazi activity.

      “There were boys who fought in school, but it was not because they were Jewish. They fought because they are boys,” said Khorenjenko, 33, whose Jewish great-grandmother fled Poland before the German invasion during World War II.

      https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/03/27/russia-war-ukraine-jews/7151171001/

      Andrew Coates

      March 28, 2022 at 4:24 pm

      • Ah yes, smear and deflect. It’s ok to quote an anecdote in USA Today but it’s wrong to quote from George Galloway? You have Jim Denham of the pro-Iraq and pro-Afghanistan invasion AWL to say nothing of the pro-Apartheid Israel AWL but it’s wrong to quote Galloway. This is the McCarthyism you’ve got into bed with Andrew.

        You have no problem with the West inc. Israel arming the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion and say nothing about their incorporation as separate units into Ukraine’s armed forces either.

        This is really a new low for you. With Zelensky performing the traditional role of Zionist, i.e. koshering neo-Nazis and actual Nazis, again you say nothing. And as for NATO? Well they’re beyond reproach

        Tony Greenstein

        March 28, 2022 at 4:50 pm


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