Labour and the Greens.
In East Anglia the Green Party is a force in many District councils . They control Mid Suffolk. They are not noticably left wing and will tell anybody who asks, eg me, they are not socialist. Polls published in East Anglian Bylines indicate they will not have a breakthrough in the General Election, even their Waveney target seat.
One can agree with them on some issues, here on the new Sizewell C nuclear plant which apart from energy issues will destroy an area of great beauty, without supporting them.
This is part of a wider debate.
Tendance Coatesy 
How are they not particularly left wing?
whophd2ea33c35bc
April 3, 2024 at 1:28 pm
For a start their base in Suffolk is not left wing. Prosperous rural areas. Next their green agenda is about sustainability not equality. Finally they have lots of middle class often oddball members and do not back the labour movement.
Andrew Coates
April 3, 2024 at 6:10 pm
To add.
Can you imagine their base in East Suffolk as left wing ? They have the Chair of the Council in East Suffolk in coalition with the Lib Dems and ‘independents’
The Greens have a base including places like Framlingham.
Think the Detectorists, filmed in Fram.
https://x.com/BylinesEast/status/1775206568172093474?s=20
Andrew Coates
April 3, 2024 at 7:56 pm
Just out of curiosity, are any of the the new Christian National Socialist parties noticeably “right” wing? I just watched “Sieg des Glaubens” and it looks like a Trump rally in uniforms to me.
oiltranslator
April 3, 2024 at 4:12 pm
That was seen to be the case last local elections. There are swathes of people that have disowned Labour & the Tories and seek alternatives.
Mark Wright
April 4, 2024 at 11:09 pm
Swathes of people ‘who have disowned Labour’ swathes yeah? Teensy weensy little swathes in fact not even that. You have polling data to support your assertion? No of course you don’t and when your blabber crashes into reality and is disproved by the real world you just smile stupidly and start to blabber the next piece of nonsense, don’t you.
davedraycott
April 5, 2024 at 1:21 am
I agree. Intuitively I would have thought the Greens would do well in the General Election in Suffolk. It is their stronghold in local councils, who have limited powers. But the material I cite shows they are.likely to remain marginal.
As for other ‘alternatives’, 7 grouplets and various individuals , they will struggle to be heard.
Andrew Coates
April 5, 2024 at 8:07 am
If you had engaged brain before mouth, I was referring to the 2023 elections.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-65493652
Mark Wright
April 5, 2024 at 11:26 pm
Ignore him, he’s crossed my path in the past. Ignorance is his second name.
Pat Adams
April 5, 2024 at 11:39 pm
Your thin skin pricked was it.
davedraycott
April 6, 2024 at 9:31 pm
Galloway’s far right candidate
https://x.com/Searchlight_mag/status/1776565909886255458
Andrew Coates
April 6, 2024 at 7:27 pm
It’s useful to have a brain to engage isn’t it. You said clearly in the present tense that there are ‘swathes of people’ who are disengaged. We both know there aren’t and you’re talking nonsense and your response as I predicted is blabber, talking more nonsense.
davedraycott
April 6, 2024 at 9:30 pm
A comrade emailed me thus:
How cheaply are these left wing votes being sold to the greens. There are no demands or even calls for a reciprocal deal whereby the Greens support left wing independents. They are not, as far as I am aware, stepping down for Jamie Driscoll or the Liverpool independents.
Carla Denyer is the candidate in Bristol Central, as Joint Green Party leader her entire strategy has been to move her party rightwards towards the centre ghand copy the Lib Dem’s strategy of building a base in local government via opportunism, nimbyism and small ‘c’ conservatism.
When interviewed by Owen Jones she didn’t even pander to the audience. She again and again refused to position the Greens as a party of the left or the heirs to Corbynism.
Instead she argued they are a pragmatic centrist party able to win votes from Tories as well as Labour. I do not see how she is anyway an improvement on or different to Thagnam Debonnaire, except maybe on Trans rights.
Jim Denham
April 5, 2024 at 9:42 am
Even their leaflets copy the Lib Dems. A very recent one in this ward gave the results of a survey giving them a good vote in Alexandra (which covers the town centre, the Waterfront and the streets nearby, that is here).
It is notoriously difficult if not impossible to distribute leaflets let alone do an accurate survey in this large area which includes blocks of flats by the Waterfront which are ‘gated’.
The intention is to give the impression that a Green vote is not wasted.
The Libs did this here in the past.
Expect follow ups and fearmongering.
Andrew Coates
April 5, 2024 at 12:08 pm
https://x.com/lmharpin/status/1776340021785637207
Andrew Coates
April 5, 2024 at 9:09 pm
https://x.com/PeterTatchell/status/1776571850060968010
Andrew Coates
April 6, 2024 at 2:47 pm
Do you have any conditions or deals with Labour?
Eric
April 6, 2024 at 5:30 pm
We intervene and fight for our politics: we often win.
Jim Denham
April 10, 2024 at 12:34 am
You could do that in the Greens. Hell you could do that in the Tories.
Eric
April 10, 2024 at 11:06 am