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Far Right Fellow Traveller Douglas Murray Attacks Cde Owen Jones.

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The above is a major part of a pile-in against Owen Jones on Twitter today,

Douglas Murray is associate editor of The Spectator and author of The Madness of Crowds: Gender, Race and Identity, among other books.

The far right comes in from the cold

By Andrew Coates Chartist Magazine 2019.

The Christchurch Mosque massacre of March 2019 brought some of the ideas of the far right to international attention. The murderer of 51 people had published a manifesto, The Great Replacement. This echoes the ideas of the European ‘identitarian’ movement, and the French far-right writer Renaud Camus (Le grand Remplacement (2011)). Douglas Murray had written in The Strange Death of Europe (2017) that European civilisation is “committing suicide”.

The Spectator writer continued that both a lack of faith in Europe’s traditional values and the “mass movement of peoples into Europe” were at fault. Murray is far from advocating violence to halt “white genocide”. Yet he cited Camus and rejected the idea that our homelands could be “great melting pots”.

More:

Douglas Murray’s The Madness of Crowds avoids developing views on the threat of migration. The idea that “the mass movement of peoples into Europe” is happening as Europe has “lost faith in its beliefs, traditions and legitimacy.” (The Strange Death of Europe. 2017).

An authority on this, Yves Camus, and his theory of the Great Replacement, cited at length in that work, does not pop up in the present volume. It is not the suicide of a Continent that preoccupies The Madness, but ‘“a great crowd derangement”. This new Tulip Mania is ‘Identity politics’. “It atomises society into different interest groups according to sex (or gender), race, sexual preferences and more.” (Page 3) These “rights issues have moved from being a product of a system to being the foundations of a new one.” (Page 7). These “destabilising foundation of liberalism” lead to “ugliness” to “believe things that are unbelievable”. This “crowd madness” needs, like a minefield, to be “cleared”.

One could be forgiven for thinking that Murray was a contributor to Spiked, and an acolyte of Frank Furedi. Yet the former Revolutionary Communist Party guru is absent from his pages; his warnings about the post-68 left’s turn to a “bitter conflict between competing lifestyles – symbolic struggles”, the “culture wars”, are unmentioned. (4)

The Madness of Crowds. Gender, Race and Identity. Douglas Murray. Culture Wars seen from the Right.

From today’s pile on:

The view of this Blog is that Owen Jones is a good thing, and anybody attacking him – not disagreeing with him attacking him – is a class enemy.

Written by Andrew Coates

August 5, 2021 at 11:41 am

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  1. Indeed. Jones today is today being attacked by Murray and his ilk and echoed by the Daily Mail. This follows past rightist monstering by Guido and the very strange ‘Conservative Woman’ site (now renamed as ‘TCW’ as they think ‘Conservative’ is, in their eyes, now an addled ‘woke’ term).

    BUT and it is a very big but….Comrade Owen is also routinely monstered by sections of the left for his refusal to leaves his brains behind on the check in desk. This ranges from the Tokyo Rose of Swindon, through Skwawkbox (on the UNITE election) “Turner’s supporters, including Jones whose record in the past six years has hardly been steadfast, are facilitating the campaign of the hard-right by flapping about and refusing to recognise the grassroots strength and appeal of Howard Beckett” and (on Brexit) “2020 Owen Jones blames ‘hard remainers’ for not accepting a ‘soft Brexit’. 2019 Jones said ‘soft Brexit’ was dead and Labour must accept new referendum” to the ultimate in deep red-brownery, the grisly Galloway, who recently said of Jones “I had the dubious pleasure of sitting down with Mr Jones from the Guardian for two hours and I told him he was a big part of Labour’s problem because he, and people like him, have blaggarded the British working class” and – with more than a hint of a deep seated homophobia – “You and people like you, have led the way in the anathematization of the British working class. Because they don’t think like you talk like you, because they don’t dress like you, because their social and cultural norms are not the same as you, you have blaggarded them.”

    And so – on that cross boundary slagging off by the United Forces of Darkness – I have no hesitation at all in awarding Comrade Owen the Order of the Good Egg (1st Class).

    David Walsh

    August 5, 2021 at 1:30 pm

  2. As someone who is registered blind and therefore has a disability, I agree with much (but not all) of what Murray says in The Madness of Crowds. Disabled people (along with other groups such as black people) have been treated badly in the past, but (having achieved equality under the law) are no longer disenfranchised in the same way as before. Murray does recognise past injustice in his book (E.G. he speaks approvingly of Martin Luther King), what he objects to is the splitting up of individuals into separate groups rather than seeing them (as they should be seen) as valuable individuals. Best. Kevin

    K Morris Poet

    August 5, 2021 at 1:44 pm

    • I ought to have added that whilst I have read The Madness of Crowds, I have not read the other book you reference in your post. Therefore I can’t comment on that work. However ideas such as the so-called “great replacement” are dangerous as they foster racial tension when we should be aiming for harmony between all people irrespective of their skin colour Etc.

      K Morris Poet

      August 5, 2021 at 1:51 pm

      • The book I refer to The Strange Death of Europe. shows all the signs of somebody who actually speaks French, which makes it all the worse.

        Andrew Coates

        August 5, 2021 at 3:19 pm

  3. Indeed. Jones today is today being attacked by Murray and his ilk and echoed by the Daily Mail. This follows past rightist monstering by Guido and the very strange ‘Conservative Woman’ site (now renamed as ‘TCW’ as they think ‘Conservative’ is, in their eyes, now an addled ‘woke’ term).

    BUT and it is a very big but….Comrade Owen is also routinely monstered by sections of the left for his refusal to leaves his brains behind on the check in desk. This ranges from the Tokyo Rose of Swindon, through Skwawkbox (on the UNITE election) “Turner’s supporters, including Jones whose record in the past six years has hardly been steadfast, are facilitating the campaign of the hard-right by flapping about and refusing to recognise the grassroots strength and appeal of Howard Beckett” and (on Brexit) “2020 Owen Jones blames ‘hard remainers’ for not accepting a ‘soft Brexit’. 2019 Jones said ‘soft Brexit’ was dead and Labour must accept new referendum” to the ultimate in deep red-brownery, the grisly Galloway, who recently said of Jones “I had the dubious pleasure of sitting down with Mr Jones from the Guardian for two hours and I told him he was a big part of Labour’s problem because he, and people like him, have blaggarded the British working class” and – with more than a hint of a deep seated homophobia – “You and people like you, have led the way in the anathematization of the British working class. Because they don’t think like you talk like you, because they don’t dress like you, because their social and cultural norms are not the same as you, you have blaggarded them.”

    And so – on that cross boundary slagging off by the United Forces of Darkness – I have no hesitation at all in awarding Comrade Owen the Order of the Good Egg (1st Class).

    David Walsh

    August 5, 2021 at 2:40 pm

  4. Twitter used to be fun but is vile now. I seldom use it. It’s just used to promote bullying and pile ons. It’s full of bots and bad faith actors too.

    IainF

    August 5, 2021 at 3:27 pm

  5. People like Murray (and the rest of the Speccie/Spiked/Standpoint crowd like Fraser Nelson and even that plonker O’Neill) used to be quite entertaining and occasionally thought-provoking. Since Brexit and the culture wars, they’ve gone over to the racist far-right and should be treated as the scum they are.

    Jim Denham

    August 5, 2021 at 4:43 pm

    • Agree. Brexit and the Culture Wars are a disaster and the Left should be vary wary about engaging in this Culture Wars stuff. It can give an illusion of a real fight (and even real victories) but it’s fought on the hard right’s ground and can only benefit them in the long term. With the collapse of the industrial struggle and the atomisation of the Working class it is tempting to create new fronts in which to engage and organize within, however this may just land up creating more division. I think the Left need to get back to basics somehow. Not easy though.

      IainF

      August 5, 2021 at 5:05 pm

    • My thoughts exactly. It was Brexit that clarified a lot of things like that.

      Andrew Coates

      August 5, 2021 at 6:00 pm


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