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Roshan Salih, Press TV and the Enfield Labour Vote of No-Confidence in Joan Ryan.

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Is it true that Salih is a member of the Labour Party?

I am not a member of Enfield Labour Party and am in no position to comment in depth on the events.

But it does appear that there was a broad coalition behind the vote of no-confidence in MP Joan Ryan.

In these conditions it is highly misleading to talk of “Trotksyists” “Communists” and “Stalinists” behind last night’s decision.

I hope that the result can be linked to her wider – right of the Labour Party – politics and not to the issue of ‘Zionism’.

Not to mention local concerns about her performance as an MP.

But this raises wider issues:

Press TV footage apparently filmed inside CLP vote of no confidence in MP Joan Ryan

Labour activists are calling for an inquiry after an Iranian state-backed TV station which is banned in the UK carried footage of a local party meeting passing a vote of no confidence in the Enfield North MP, Joan Ryan.

The Press TV footage, which appeared to have been filmed inside the meeting, was carried on the station’s Twitter feed and referred to Ryan, who is the chair of Labour Friends of Israel, as a “pro-Israel MP”. It included the hashtag #WeAreEnfieldNorth.

Press TV had its licence to broadcast in the UK revoked by the media regulator, Ofcom, in 2012, over claims that editorial decisions were being made in Tehran.

The chair of the Enfield North constituency Labour party (CLP) tweeted that he had informed Labour party headquarters about Press TV’s apparent access to the meeting, and an investigation would take place.

Press TV’s licence was taken after, amongst other things, for this (Independent 2010).

in an interview with Channel 4 News, to be broadcast tonight, Mr Bahari explains that Press TV betrayed those promises, by sending a journalist to cover his forced confession in Tehran’s notorious Evin prison.

‘I was somewhat surprised because I thought Press TV would at least pretend to have some credibility and wouldn’t come and interview a prisoner in an interrogation room when I was under duress.’

Mr Bahari says he was tortured and then forced to make his confession on television, under threat of execution. He describes how he sat inside a room in the prison, before three cameras, and responded to questions suggested by a government interrogator, who stood behind a red curtain. He says he kept his blindfold on his knee, in full view, so it should have been clear that he was under duress.

Press TV then broadcast the confession, as though it was a legitimate interview, and Mr Bahari a willing guest; the presenter even suggested Mr Bahari might have participated in the protests.

Is Salih a member of the Labour Party?

The Tweet on ‘Zionist Infiltration’ was preceded  by this:

Today this is one comment he retweeted:

This is his own reaction after his coverage appeared on Press TV

This was another of his scoops – earlier this year (January)

Ken Livingstone appeared on Iranian state television on Holocaust Memorial Day on a programme that asked whether the Shoa has “been exploited to oppress others.”

The former Mayor of London – currently suspended from the Labour Party over antisemitism claims – appeared on Press TV on Saturday with host Roshan Muhammed Salih.

Several callers phoned into the show – which suggested ‘Zionists’ had exploited the Holocaust – and repeated openly antisemitic tropes.

At one point the presenter says: “I don’t know whether 6 million, or 4 million died or 2 million died.”

One caller to the programme, Ali, said: ”If it wasn’t for Hitler there would be no Israel. So this idea that Hitler was a bad guy – he wasn’t so bad for Israel.”

Mr Livingstone disagreed saying the remarks were “deeply offensive” to Jewish communities around the world.

But later Mr Livingstone attempted to justify his own past comments on Hitler and Zionism.

He said: ”I mean Hitler wanted to eliminate every Jew who was living inside Germany and that’s what he did in the 1930s. He worked with the Zionist movement to move …to get 60000 to go. But it was about half a million and then he changed his policy and went for genocide. “

Host Mr Salih at one stage spoke of the “industry” that has built up around the Holocaust.

Salih is the Editor the pro-Iranian Islamist site, 5 Pillars.

Editor – Roshan Muhammed Salih

These are some of his views:

The two-state solution means Palestine’s destruction, so why does Jeremy Corbyn support it?

If Jeremy Corbyn really cares about Palestine why does he keep talking about a two-state solution, asks Roshan Muhammed Salih.

The article ends with a call for support for action, military if need be, against Israel.

With the advent of a multi-polar world and rising Muslim powers, will Palestinians finally get the financial, military and political backing they deserve?

None of us know the answers to these questions but I do know that time is against Israel and an argument can be made that they need a deal more than the Palestinians do.

But non-Palestinians should not tell Palestinians what to do; our role is to simply support them. Whatever the Palestinian consensuses is I’m fine with that. If the consensus is to fight Israel with arms I support that because an occupied people has the right to resist an occupation militarily. If they want to struggle by peaceful means through cultural boycotts or politics then I also support that. And if they want to do a combination of both then that’s great too.

But like the majority of Palestinians I do not support a two-state solution. And neither should Jeremy Corbyn.

Then there’s this:

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Note: Harry’s Place asserts this: Press TV’s Roshan Salih films no confidence vote against Joan Ryan

But

Update: There is some haziness over the precise circumstances around the filming, but it seems clear that it was in no way condoned by the CLP’s chair, Siddo Dwyer.”

 

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Revolutionary Communist Group (Fight Racism, Fight Imperialism) Storms Newcastle Council Debate to Prevent Adoption of Anti-Semitism Guidelines.

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RCG Says, “Smash Zionism!”

Far-left protesters storm council chamber as anti-Semitism debate descends into chaos

The Chronicle (Newcastle)

A council meeting descended into chaos as protesters stormed the chamber during a debate on anti-Semitism.

“Frightened” councillors were forced out of the room and left in tears due to the angry protest from far-left campaigners, one of whom had to be dragged from the chamber by securit

The protest – led by the revolutionary communist Fight Racism Fight Imperialism group – was opposing Newcastle City Council’s adoption of the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) definition of anti-Semitism, which they claimed would “criminalise solidarity with Palestine in Newcastle”.

After Lib Dem opposition deputy leader Nick Cott raised the motion to adopt the definition, protesters in the public gallery above began chanting, unfurled Palestinian flags, and shouted abuse at councillors.

As councillors left the room, one man broke into the main council chamber and was dragged away by security as Lord Mayor David Down tried to calm the protesters down.

It was claimed that one member of the civic centre’s security staff was put into a headlock by the demonstrators, some of whom were led away by police.

Afterwards, council leader Nick Forbes labelled them “clowns” who “don’t do anything to further the cause of the Palestinians”.

The result?

“When councillors returned to the chamber after around 25 minutes, Coun Forbes seconded the motion – having agreed to drop an amendment he had proposed – and it was passed unanimously.

Coun Forbes told the chamber that adopting the IHRA motion would “show we understand the upset and hurt that many people in our Jewish communities feel”.

Flagged up here: Revolutionary Communist Group attack Anti-Semitism Debate.

And on their Facebook Page: “Fight Racism – Fight Imperialism – FRFI North East

We have won the right to address the council! Thanks to everyone who signed the petition. See you at the protest today. Fight the council motion – defend the right to defend Palestine!

 

This was the campaign mounted by the RCG/Fight Racism, Fight Imperialism!

Don’t criminalise solidarity with Palestine in Newcastle.

1. Vote against the motion to accept the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) definition of anti-Semitism.

2. State that the IHRA definition is an attempt to criminalise solidarity with Palestine by aiming to restrict protests, meetings and individuals that criticise Israel.

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This campaign is being run by a member of the public on the Campaigns by You website, not by 38 Degrees itself. 38 Degrees does not endorse all of the petitions on the website.

Why is this important?

On 5th September 2018, at its full council meeting, Newcastle City Council is due to vote on a motion as to whether the council should adopt the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) definition of anti-Semitism.

The definition comes with examples of anti-Semitism, including: “”Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g. by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavour.”

We say: Israel is a racist state and saying so is not anti-Semitic. Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism.

Israel is a racist colonial settler state, based on the disposition of the Palestinian people, it must maintain itself by extending that dispossession through violent means, and has done so constantly since the 1993 Oslo Agreements.

We the undersigned call on Newcastle City Council to:

1. vote against the motion to accept the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) definition of anti-Semitism.

2. state that the IHRA definition is an attempt to criminalise solidarity with Palestine by aiming to restrict protests, meetings and individuals that criticise Israel.

Acts of anti-Semitism show hatred towards Jewish and other Semitic people. Our assertion that Israel is a racist state is not informed by hatred towards Jewish people but rather by solidarity with the people of Palestine and their struggle against occupation and colonisation. Israel defines itself as a Jewish state. Non-Jewish Israeli’s and non-Jewish Palestinian’s are discriminated against on a vast scale. This discrimination and the collective punishment of Palestinians by Israel has been recognised by international humanitarian organisations, including Amnesty International.

There are many Jewish organisations who are opposed to Israel because of its Zionist and racist nature. For example, the International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network states:

“Zionism is racist. It demands political, legal and economic power for Jews and European people and cultures over indigenous people and cultures. Zionism is not just racist but anti-Semitic.” Non-white, non-European Jews, are treated as second-class citizens, and face racism and economic exploitation at the hands of the Israeli state.

There has also been a witch hunt in the Labour Party against any politicians who criticise Israel. This includes the suspension of Jackie Walker, who is both black and Jewish. Does the council support this suspension?

We oppose all forms of racism and oppression. That means we must defend the right to defend Palestine. We ask Newcastle City Council to do the same.

The RCG’s background (Wikipedia)

The RCG grew out of the “Revolutionary Opposition” faction of the International Socialists (IS), (forerunners of the Socialist Workers Party), being strongly influenced by the politics of Roy Tearse. When the leading figures of the “Revolutionary Opposition”, the name itself only first appearing in print in their appeal document, were expelled from the IS its members met to decide on their course of action, and disagreements between Tearse’s allies and the majority of the faction around David Yaffe rapidly surfaced. The result was that Tearse’s supporters formed the Discussion Group which led a quiet life for a number of years inside the Labour Party before dissolving. Meanwhile, Yaffe and his comrades proceeded to found the Revolutionary Communist Group in 1974.[4]

In 1975, the RCG began publishing a theoretical journal called Revolutionary Communist in which it in part espoused a view of crisis theory, a theme they had already addressed in the IS when challenging the work of the theoreticians of that group.[5] They developed Karl MarxFriedrich Engels and Vladimir Lenin‘s analysis of the labour aristocracy, and showed its relevance for politics in the period after the Second World War. Their conclusions led them to call for no vote for the Labour Party.

The early years of the RCG saw the group lose a large part of its initial membership. For example, in September 1975 the Birmingham branch decamped in order to join the Workers’ Socialist League.

Hungarian sociologist Frank Furediwas an early member of the RCG before being ejected in 1976, following which he founding the Revolutionary Communist Tendency. In later life he rejected socialism and became a libertarian.

A few years after the RCG’s foundation, disagreements emerged amongst its members regarding such topics as Stalinism and the South African government. One group, dominated by Frank Furedi (1947-), a sociologist at the University of Kent who used the pseudonym of “Frank Richards”, began to argue against the views put forward by David Yaffe and his supporters. Yaffe himself later remarked that Furedi had been “organising among a clique of middle-class members, and became their self-styled guru”.[6] In November 1976, Furedi and his followers were expelled from the RCG, following which they went on to form their own rival organisation, the Revolutionary Communist Tendency(RCT). Soon, the RCT itself splintered, with a group calling itself the Committee for a Communist Programme (CPP) being founded by several dissenting members.[7] Following this, the RCT went on to change its name to the Revolutionary Communist Party in 1981, and would publish the magazine Living Marxism from 1988 to 2000, in which their political position moved from Leninism to Libertarian Marxism.”

Now Supporting Tony Greenstein: The End of Labour Briefing and the LRC as Political Forces on the Left.

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This appears on the Labour Briefing site:

Sir Walter Scott’s poem Marmion describes Jon Lansman’s behaviour down to a tee:

Oh! what a tangled web we weave
When first we practise to deceive!

In Momentum today there is no obvious way to remove Lansman. The Constitution he has imposed would be the envy of the Chinese Community Party.  If it wasn’t clear before it should be clear now that Lansman’s desire to succeed McNicol was motivated by his desire to continue with the ancien regime.

Tony Benn must be spinning in his grave as his former student has become a practitioner of the dark arts best associated with the Prince of Darkness, Peter Mandelson.

No doubt Tony Benn’s ashes (he was cremated)  are also spinning at the publication of this spleen.

It follows this disingenuous article in Labour Briefing,

THE WITCH-HUNTERS are celebrating: they have bagged a trophy quarry. Tony Greenstein has been expelled from the Labour Party.

The main pretext used to justify his expulsion was making offensive comments against certain individuals. Tony is indeed not in the habit of using diplomatic language. He is often outspoken in his condemnation of apologists and supporters of injustice.

Greenstein has certainly “spoken out”.

Such as here (from the original of the doctored article that appears above),

“It almost seems as if Momentum’s führer, because he is an unelected dictator, has forgotten what the word socialism means.”

“Tony Benn must be turning in his grave as his former student has turned into a latter day Napoleon Bonaparte. Lansman’s trade is treachery.”

“Lansman, when given the choice between being honest and open, lying and transparency chooses the former without fail.”

And here:

Or this:

(from here: “the fragrant Ella Rose, the Jewish Labour Movement’s violent Director ” Snoopers, Serpents and Mosers – McNicol’s Secret Police are hard at work.

 

Not that his abuse is confined to ‘Zionists’ (a very broad category including this Blog) , or as he calls them ‘Zios’.

There is this post,

 5 November 2017

The Framing of Kelvin Hopkins MP

First it was ‘anti-Semitism’ now the Labour Right (& the BBC’s Tory Kuenssberg) are weaponising Sexual Harassment.

Ava dressed up as a schoolgirl by her Telegraph minders for her interview

That is why just like anti-Semitism has been weaponised, so sexual harassment can be and it would appear is being weaponised at this moment.  It is clear that the Tories epitomised by the monstrous lech Michael Fallon are clearly guilty of gross acts of abuse and worse.  However there is a determined effort by the BBC and the Tory press to turn the attention on Labour.  The Right are doing all they can to encourage this and the Left should stand up and ask where the proof is, because apart from Ivan Lewis MP there seems none.

It is almost certain that Kelvin Hopkins is innocent of the charges against him. I must confess that when I first saw Etemadzadeh I rubbed my eyes. Why is she dressed up as a schoolgirl? Is this to try and suggest she is young, virginal and innocent? She must be at least 23-24, what is this school girl image for?  And the poppy?  No socialist activist would be seen dead wearing a symbol to British military imperialism.

Or this,

But his main theme is indeed the Middle East.

Here he is describing the Nazis and Zionists as “best of Pals”:

Here is Greenstein’s own best friend,

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The Labour Representation Committee, LRC) already pushed itself into margins by refusing the support the Momentum slate for the Labour NEC. Now most people on the democratic socialist left will want nothing to do with a magazine, and an organisation that publishes and supports this abusive and misogynistic hate-monger.

 Meanwhile in the real world:  Labour antisemitism more widespread than thought, Momentum says

Accusations should not be dismissed simply as rightwing smears, group says, urging Labour to deal with the problem

Labour Against the Witch-Hunt Faces New Crisis After Call to Purge….Labour Party HQ.

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Monster Raving Greenstein, the Labour Party Marxist and Friends.

First there was this,

Then there was this:

MOMENTUM: “MOMENTUM LOGO AT LAW PROTEST WITHOUT OUR OK”

The Labour Against the Witchhunt (LAW) campaign group has been protesting today outside Labour’s ‘Southside’ HQ, where Labour’s National Executive Committee (NEC) has been meeting. The protesters been calling for a clear-out of Labour HQ staff whom they blame for what they believe are a series of politically-motivated suspensions and expulsions of Labour members.

The protesters have been condemned by some members and observers, who say believe that the group is intimidating Labour staff.

The protest has featured a red banner carrying the logo of Momentum Brighton and Hove – where several of senior LAW figures are based – alongside LAW’s own livery:

This has been the subject of hot dispute today among Momentum B&H members, many of whom were unhappy about their group’s banner appearing at the protest and believe it hands a propaganda opportunity to the mainstream media and other opponents of Momentum.

The SKWAWKBOX contacted Momentum’s national HQ to ask whether the group had Momentum’s permission to use a banner bearing its logo. The answer was brief and emphatic:

No they do not.

LAW has stated that it did not ‘use’ the banner, which they say was brought to the protest by Momentum B&H members. Other Momentum B&H members have said that the group did not agree to the banner’s use at the protest, but this is disputed by some locals.

Labour Against the Witch-hunt are known to be furious about this accurate report.

A frothing Greenstein wrote on the site,

the whole of this article is a lie and it should be taken down. The banner is from Brighton & Hove Momentum. 3 members of whom came to the lobby. It was discussed beforehand on the Brighton Momentum Cttee page.

It has not been ‘the subject of hot dispute today among Momentum B&H members’ today.

Furthermore we do not need the permission of Momentum’s unelected dictator Jon Lansman in order to display it.

We also did not call 4 a clearout of LP staff. I did however call for Witchfinder General Sam Mattews to follow his leader Iain McNicoll.

Shame on you. You have carried nothing about the false antisemitism witch hunt, you failed to contact LAW and went instead to Lansman.

LAW ignored this in their own coverage of the historic event.

This is their “report”.

LAW lobby: NEC members sneak in through the back door

mysteriously, despite the people on the lobby being outside the office block an hour before the NEC meeting started, no more members of Labour’s 39-strong ruling body, where the Corbyn-backing Left recently took control, were seen – suggesting they may have slipped into the building from a back entrance to avoid being questioned. The campaigners chanted: “Stop the witch hunts”, “End the suspensions”, and “Implement Chakrabarti now”.

No mention of the chanting, “McNicol’s gone, now it’s time for the rest of them”.

Informed commentators suggest that Greenstein, who from the evidence of recent photos scarfs a wheel-barrow of Waitrose Hot Cross Buns a day, is not just aiming to clear out anybody he disagrees with from the Labour HQ.

The ballooning Brighton campaigner and mates may have taken a tip from Monster Raving’s  new best friend, George Galloway and,  have aims to make Labour a “Zionist Free” Party.

This may indicate the direction this lot are headed in,

Friends of Israel groups blocked from joining anti-racist demonstration (Shiraz)

The two Friends of Israel (FoI) groups defend not just Israel’s right to exist but also the policies pursued by its governments. They vaguely advocate peace between Israel and Palestinians, but that is no more than a sub-text to their overall politics.

It seems that all their members are Jewish (or at least the vast majority are). Like most Jews, they are Zionists and they support Israel.

For absolute anti-Zionists, it was therefore a matter of principle that they should have no place on an anti-racist demonstration, not even one which included condemnation of antisemitism amongst its slogans: they were Zionists, and pro-Israel.

In the weeks leading up to the demonstration there was a concerted campaign to push the demonstration organisers into banning the FoI groups from marching on the demonstration.

UTR was lobbied by the International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network (signatories to its open letter included Tony Greenstein, Jackie Walker and Moshe Machover), Brighton and Hove PSC, Sheffield PSC, York PSC, and Jews for Boycotting Israeli Goods.

Greenstein’s exchange with Skwawky is to savour:

Guido Fawkes and Skwawkbox Sing From the Same Hymn Sheet.

Sample (if you can stomach it):

We do not need the approval of the dictator of Momentum, Lansman to bring the banner.

In short the report is a lie

Tony Greenstein

After many a page we get this, 

SKWAWKBOX Blog
00:15 (0 minutes ago)

to me, Sally

It did. You just didn’t like how it did.

Like I said, you have your reasons why you thought today was a good day. They’re narrow, in keeping with your focus. Fair enough, just do try to be reasonable if others see things differently and have a wider picture.

Aaand there you go with the Lansman crap again. Have you been paying attention to anything going on outside your bubble? If you had, you wouldn’t spout such crap.

The ‘Garston 3’ were three similarly blinkered people – they knowingly broke a clear party rule, did massive damage that undid gains others on the left had worked years for and then expected the people whose work they had just undone to self-immolate in their defence, when there was no defence. They were selfish and then served their own heads on a platter to the right – everyone else is still dealing with the consequences. Perhaps you’ll see why I’m not in a rush to help others I don’t trust not to do the same.

As to ‘steering clear’, again I invite you to bloody read. If you can’t be bothered doing that, then as a next-best option refrain from flinging shit about things you’re ignorant about.

And you’re equally ignorant about journalism if you think the only sources that can be used are those who can be named publicly.

We’re done. I have neither time nor appetite to beat my head against a brick wall any longer.

Steve

Editor

The SKWAWKBOX

 Questions remain about Brighton Momentum and its involvement in this charade.

Update,

Then there is this, Grr Grr Greenstein.

Tony Greenstein

This relates to the secret Momentum Brighton Committee Facebook group where one member on the Right resorted to blocking me in order that he could stop me responding to his post on taking BH Momentum banner to a picket of LP HQ today. The little shit is an administrator with the NHS Trust. I kinda guess that is where he learns these kind of tricks.

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS DISHONESTY FROM RENATO MARQUEZ

A post appeared on this list under Renato’s name. I cannot see it because he blocked me. Because I have another account I can access it and see it but this is utterly dishonest. Renato didn’t want me to take part in the discussion, even though I am a member of the Steering Committee.

To deliberately block someone to prevent them taking part in the discussion which is about their own actions is about as dishonest as it gets.

To respond to the accusations made on that discussion.

It was flagged up here that the banner was going to be taken to the lobby today Originally it was Becky who was going and we discussed her taking the banner, as she had it not me and I would take the poles. Because Becky decided at the last minute to go to India I collected the banner on Saturday but it was flagged up on this list.

I make no apologies for taking it. Brighton & Hove Momentum has clear policy AGAINST the witch hunt though I suspect Renato isn’t opposed to it, hence his objection. LAW has advertised its lobby for sometime and there were 2 other members from B&H Momentum – both from the Unite branch.

The allegations on Swawkbox are untrue but I now know who supplied the information, with instructions that they weren’t going to be quoted by name. Renato.

If people want to argue in favour of the witch hunt which has led to 3 expulsions in BH Momentum and the same no of suspensions fine. Today the National kangaroo Court met in oxford to consider the case of someone whose parents were survivors of Nazi concentration camps and who was a Captain in the Israeli army. He too is ‘antisemitic’ People who agree with this are in my view total scum. These allegations of ‘antisemitism’ are nothing short of political terrorism. They are common, they are frequent and they are being used as a means of destabilising Labour. That is and was their origin.

I was proud that BH banner was present today. It wasn’t to embarrass but to remind the NEC that there is a legacy of McNicol to be overcome and that is the hundreds if not thousands of people who have been auto-excluded, expelled and suspended.

Perhaps Renato would like to move a change of policy at the AGM and we can argue about it?

I am particularly angry at the dishonesty that allows someone to post something whilst blocking the person that it is aimed at. that is underhand, to put it mildly. No member of the Committee should block another person unless they have been the recipient of abuse. I have never posted or messaged Renato so clearly something was churning up inside him to motivate him to do this.

Yes I am expelled. But if people cast their minds back they will recall I was suspended for remarks I was alleged to have made. Those remarks did not form any part of my hearing. Hence I was suspended without good cause. That is the issue not whether I took a banner. I realise that as Labour nears office then Momentum will politically differentiate. That is happening here. Some people – Renato and his supporters in the post I can’t even see, believe one should hide one’s politics and not protest too loudly. the result of this will be that the only pressure on Corbyn will be from the Right.

Indeed we will probably see, and it is a matter of guesswork whether it is b4 or after the next election, some form of split in the PLP. Momentum or rather Lansman has decided against compulsory reselection. These are the issues not the fake issues of a fake Skwawkbox and the actions of the ‘blocking’ Renato, that matter. Yes I expect support being expelled for no good reason. I don’t expect certain people to give it.

However argue your politics openly. Don’t resort to blocking manouvres!

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March 21, 2018 at 12:09 pm

Tony Greenstein Expelled from the Labour Party – Good Riddance.

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The Tendance is not in favour of any witch-hunts.

The Tendance does not see, however, why on earth Tony Greenstein wants to be a member of the Labour Party, why he should be allowed to join or keep his card.

The clue is in the response from Greenstein, and the reference to “noxious behaviour”  in the  Daily Mirror article.

Those who know the background are aware that Greenstein has harassed a large number of people, for a variety of alleged reasons, not always over the issue of Israel and Palestine. They include long-standing office holders and lay figures in the labour movement.

Anybody wishing to see something of Greenstein in action can see on the blog you are now reading.

This concerns only his style of argument, not the kind of close up obsessional intimidation he is so so often accused of.

“Reply to Bogdanor 8.9.14.
I had previously said that I wouldn’t respond to further replies from Bogdanor and his side-kick Ezra. However, now that I have some time, it would be churlish to avoid pointing out how our kosher fascist, in the absence of any coherent argument, insists on continuing to behave like a jaded holocaust denier.”

31.8.2014.

I have posted a full response to the lies, deceptions and misattributions of Ezra and in particular Bogdanor, a vicious anti-Communist whose political position places him on the fascist map. Any further response from these 2 clowns will be ignored.

There is a lot, a lot, more.

The recent ruling (9th of January)  by District Judge Susan Brown in Brighton merits a mention in this context, (Brighton and Hove News).

Apart from anything else, “The hearing – organised by Labour’s National Constitutional Committee – was given a copy of extracts from a recent county court judgment when Mr Greenstein unsuccessfully sought information held about him by the party using the Data Protection Act.

The judge described Mr Greenstein as “demonstrably intelligent” and “a highly controversial figure”.” (Brighton and Hove News.)

That is not the half of it….

On Greenstein, at the time engaged in one of his numerous court cases, this time about the Labour Party’s expulsion process, she said,

“It is important to say something about the applicant. He is demonstrably intelligent and has engaged in this process in an articulate and detailed way. He is also a highly controversial figure.

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“This court deals with a wide variety of litigant. The applicant quickly brands a query as to why a claim form was not issued as being an allegation of fraud which viewed reasonably it was not.

“He alleges that only a ‘fool or a knave’ would interpret one of his comments in the way the respondent submits which is an emotive comment.

“Whilst he claims to be viewed out of context he has within document repeatedly used language which is offensive in any context – ‘racist Zios’, ‘fascist scum’ to give just two small examples.

“I do not underestimate the complexity of the applicant’s views but his views and the strength with which he expresses them is something the respondent is reasonable in taking into account in providing third party information.”

This is how Greenstein reacted:

Racists Celebrate as the Labour Right and the Zionists Gets Their First Victim.

This is the Mirror:

Labour party activist ‘with history of noxious behaviour‘ expelled for using offensive anti-Semitic term “zio”

Tony Greenstein, who describes himself as an anti-Zionist, had his membership revoked on Sunday.

Labour activist Tony Greenstein has been expelled from the party over allegations of antisemitism.

The Brighton-based member was suspended in 2016 and a disciplinary hearing into his conduct was delayed until January for health reasons.

HuffPost UK understands the charges against him related to abusive online behaviour, including the use of the word “Zio”.

A Labour spokesperson confirmed on Sunday that the party’s National Constitutional Committee had found him guilty on three counts of breaching its rulebook.

They added: “The NCC of the Labour Party has today found that all three charges of a breach of the Labour Party’s rule 2.1.8 by Tony Greenstein have been found proved.

“The NCC consequently determined that the sanction for the breach of Labour Party rules will be expelled from membership.

“The Labour Party will make no further comment on this matter.”

Party rules state that no Labour member should engage in conduct which “might reasonably be seen to demonstrate hostility or prejudice based on age; disability; gender reassignment or identity; marriage and civil partnership; pregnancy and maternity; race; religion or belief; sex; or sexual orientation”.

Greenstein is vice-chair of the Labour Against the Witchhunt group, which challenges the suspension of hard-left party members.

A spokesperson for the Jewish Labour Movement said: “We welcome the decision by the Labour Party to expel Tony Greenstein.

“His continued membership is at complete odds with our collective values of solidarity, tolerance and respect.

“Deliberately harassing, intimidatory and hateful language of the kind Tony Greenstein has continually used has no place inside the Labour movement.

“Despite the unacceptably long time it has taken to reach this conclusion, we are heartened that the party has sent out a clear message on this today.

“We will continue to press the party to deal firmly and swiftly with antisemitism including the high number of cases that are still waiting to be resolved.”

 

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From Labour Against the Witch-hunt there are protests.

That is their right.

They are marred by this  ridiculous sentence,

It is shameful that anti-Semitism has been cynically weaponised by the right-wing to purge Labour of Corbyn supporters, while much more prevalent anti-black racism and, until Jeremy Corbyn spoke out against it, Islamophobia, have been ignored by the party.

Whatever.

Jon Lansman, Tony Greenstein, Ann Black and Christine Shawcroft.

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Left NEC Success.

In Patrick Cockburn’s Chaos and Caliphate: Jihadis and the West in the struggle for the Middle East (2016) the author compares the effects of the multiple civil wars in the Middle East to the mass murders, ethnic and religious cleanings that followed the fall of the Ottoman Empire, and the history of Eastern Europe in the decade after 1939. Hundreds of thousands have died, murders have culminated in  acts of genocide, whole communities have been uprooted – the fate of the Christians and other non-Muslim minorities is dire,  Shia and Sunni sectarian battles rage, the Kurds are (again, today) menaced by Turkey, and there are millions of refugees. Governments routinely use torture. Daesh, is still around, after having, as Cockburn puts it, tried to create an Islamic ‘Khmer Rouge” state.

Despite this, or perhaps because of this, some people on the left continue to consider that Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians  is the central international issue the Labour Party should be taking up, not only in the region, but  globally.

This has reverberated to damaging effect inside the Labour Party. Apart from a hyper-sensitivity – given the gravity of the some of the language and images ‘Anti-Zionists’ have employed against Israel, an understandable reaction –  there are those who wish to bring alongside Corbyn’s success their own overwhelming interest in promoting the hardline anti-Zionist side on the issue.

Militant anti-Zionism is contentious, it avoids confronting the apocalyptic destruction that is happening right now in Syria and Iraq, not to mention Yemen and elsewhere.

It is divisive, and promoted, no doubt by a minority, as such.

Such a reaction came with the results of Labour’s NEC and particularly with this from one of the dividers, Tony Greenstein,

The witch-hunting of socialists under the bogus pretext of anti-Semitism, i.e. opponents of the world’s only Apartheid state, Israel, is coming to an end in the Labour Party.

Greenstein, considers that the religious and sexual apartheid of states and militias inspired by varieties of Islamism and the mass killings taking place in the region  unworthy of his attention.

He is clear about own thing, and indeed yelps with joy at it, above all the attention he has received in the wake of a result to which he contributed nothing,

A Momentous Day for Democracy as Chief Witch-hunter, Ann Black is sacked

Christine Shawcroft is a good socialist and she has stuck up for her principles in the past, notably over her support for Lutfur Rahman, the Mayor of Tower Hamlets.

No doubt Greenstein, revelling in this “success” forgets this (Jewish Chronicle 2016),

Mr Lansman says there is no reason why Zionist Labour supporters cannot find a place in the Corbyn Labour Party.

“I have Zionist friends in the party. Jeremy supports the existence of Israel, he wants peace and co-existence. Why should Israel supporters not have a place in Labour? Of course they should. I’ve been arguing for two states long before it was acceptable within the Jewish community to argue for two states.

Many will agree with this. A critical stand towards the Israeli government, and backing for – however difficult it may seem at present, a comprise two state solution. This is not the militant anti-Zionist view which is against the existence of  Israel.

In his jouissance Greenstein may have equally forgotten this,  (Jewish Chronicle December 26th 2017), another interview with Jon Lansman,

He described Mr Greenstein – a Jewish anti-Zionist who has been suspended from the party over comments he made about Jewish MP Louise Ellman – as “probably the rudest person I know in politics. He says many offensive things, most of the time”.

On the NEC elections like many people I am happy with the result – not least because the candidates I voted for won.

I am not happy that Ann Black is no longer chair – the details of her politics and decisions are less important than that she is a respected person (I was part of the original Grassroots Alliance that backed her). She has stood up to supporters of Tony Blair in the past. Ann is particularly liked for having kept in close contact with ordinary members during her service on the NEC.

Christine has many good qualities but like many people I have concerns – illustrated not just by her support for the anti-Labour Lutfur Rahman (and the involvement of her close allies with this individual)  but also  her own split as part of the ‘Original’ Labour Briefing with the ‘LRC’ Labour Briefing (Labour Briefing… and now there are two). Her qualifications for the role as the neutral chair of the Disputes Panel do not look promising.

 

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January 18, 2018 at 1:20 pm

‘Anti-Zionist’ Tony Greenstein’s Latest Adventures.

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Yes dear, everything you don’t like is anti-Semitic – I suspect you accuse your breakfast of being anti-semitic sometimes

Snoopers, Serpents and Mosers – McNicol’s Secret Police are hard at work

McNicol’s Inspector Clouseau refused to believe I’d been in hospital – I was on a demonstration!

To those not familiar with him T.G. is an anti-Zionist…a bit, a bit….

And who says Greenstein has no sense of humour?

I sent him a satirical email, purporting to come from a Zionist.  In it I suggested that maybe the Labour Party should submit all membership applications to the Israeli Embassy just to be on the safe side.  It would appear that the humourless apparatchiks at Southside took it literally. Because in the witness statement for the Labour Party in my attempt to obtain unredacted documents from them, the verdict for which still hasn’t come through, their solicitor states (Para 20(b)(ii) that:

 

The man complaining about not being allowed to join the Labour Party on “these Labour Party scum ” ” the Chief serpent is McNicol and John Stolliday is his Deputy. There are unfortunately many serpents at Southside.” “Informers were particularly detested by Jewish people because their activities led to peoples’ death. Jews hiding out under Nazi occupation feared the informers most of all. It was one such creature who was responsible for the death of Anne Frank. It seems that you and your associates take some pride and pleasure in your activities. This is the tradition that you and Iain McNicol stand in. “

For those who want a larf there’s plenty more via the link.

It’s a quiet day but after this brief bit of an update on the Monster Raving Greenstein Party we should add this chilling warning. 

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November 14, 2017 at 3:00 pm