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Leave Means Leave Campaign Gears Up Hate Campaign with Bile Against Jo Cox as Farage Prepares for Second Referendum. .

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Nigel Farage tells Leave Means Leave rally to prepare for second referendum on Brexit.

Evening Standard.

Nigel Farage has said he believes the UK may face a second Brexit referendum in the coming months and has urged Leave campaigners to “get ready for every situation”.

The MEP and former Ukip leader said he did not think “the great Brexit betrayal is anywhere near finished” and was “more fearful than any point in this process”.

Speaking (in American), at the Leave Means Leave rally in London on Friday night, Mr Farage said: “My message folks tonight is, as much as I don’t want a second referendum, it would be wrong of us on a Leave Means Leave platform not to get ready, not to be prepared for a worst case scenario.”..

Mr Farage was joined at the event by other prominent Brexit campaigners including Conservative MP Jacob Rees-Mogg, Tim Martin, the owner of JD Wetherspoon, the Democratic Unionist Party’s Sammy Wilson, and Labour MPs Kate Hoey and Graham Stringer.

Provider of the “essential theory” behind the UK’s 2010 austerity programme. Lead economist of the official Leave campaign. Main proponent of CANZUK Tweeted a couple of days ago.

More: Is this the most disgraceful comment ever associated with Brexit?

Given the hard right bloc now in view, with its ‘Gilets Jaunes’ and other far-right outriders, the internationalist left campaign for Another Europe comes to the fore.

Another Europe has a plan – to fight for and win a referendum on Brexit, and to transform Europe. We also have a strategy for every outcome in the coming period, win or lose, referendum or not. Our campaign against Brexit is indelibly linked with a campaign against the status quo: for a society run in the interests of people and the planet, and for free movement for all.

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  1. Is it the contention of this site that Brexit in any way contributed to the murder of Joe Cox?

    Dave Roberts

    December 15, 2018 at 5:43 pm

  2. There is no such thing as a “brexit extremist”, just those who recognise that we voted to leave the EU – to be completely free of its clutches, not indefinitely shackled to it.

    There are, however, those on the Remain side who seem to think they have some divinely-given right to overrule the majority of voters. These anti-democratic types are the real extremists.

    “What is there not to like in that?”, asks Komrade Koates & Co. about an unrestricted Irish border. It is an open back door into the UK that the EU will take full advantage of. That’s what’s not to like about it. That border must be closed.

    Reality Diamonds Scream

    December 16, 2018 at 1:42 am

  3. A hard border between Northern Ireland and Eire would prevent free movement. That’s what’s not to like about it.

    Shamrock

    December 16, 2018 at 1:31 pm

  4. That border must and will be erased. It was created by Imperialist British hubris and with the Empire thankfully consigned to the dustbin of history it is a glaring anachronism. It will go eventually. Also a 2nd referendum is inevitable

    IanG

    December 17, 2018 at 3:49 am

  5. And a 2nd referendum will result in a resounding vote for REMAIN. A vote for open borders and free movement!

    Open Borders

    December 17, 2018 at 9:20 am


  6. This a reminder of what the 1st EU referendum ballot paper looked like. On that occasion the UK voted to ‘Leave the European Union’. But what exactly did Leave the European Union mean? And what will any 2nd EU referendum ballot paper look like?

    Tessa

    December 17, 2018 at 9:35 am

  7. A re-run of the first referendum is a non-starter. We have already voted to ‘Leave the European Union’ so Remain is off the ballot paper. It has to be in any case because a referendum would have to be binary. Now that we have May’s deal thrown into the pot he ballot paper would thus:

    Should the United Kingdom accept the Withdrawal Agreement on Leaving the European Union?

    Should the United Kingdom Leave the European Union?

    This avoids the what if we vote Leave again question? There is no doubt now that Leave does indeed mean Leave – HARD Brexit.

    Of it we voted to accept the Withdrawal Agreement ‘Leave’ would argue that nobody had read all 585 pages (as if 😉 ) of the Withdrawal Agreement and demand a 3rd referendum.

    Mrs Smith

    December 17, 2018 at 12:04 pm

  8. A re-run of the first referendum is a non-starter. We have already voted to ‘Leave the European Union’ so Remain is off the ballot paper. It has to be in any case because a referendum would have to be binary. Now that we have May’s deal thrown into the pot he ballot paper would thus read:

    Should the United Kingdom accept the Withdrawal Agreement on Leaving the European Union?

    Should the United Kingdom Leave the European Union?

    This avoids the what if we vote Leave again question? There is no doubt now that Leave does indeed mean Leave – HARD Brexit.

    Of course it we voted to accept the Withdrawal Agreement ‘Leave’ would then argue that nobody had read all 585 pages (as if 😉 ) of the Withdrawal Agreement and demand a 3rd referendum 😉

    Mrs Smith

    December 17, 2018 at 12:05 pm

  9. I also suspect that the Remainers want a fresh re-run of the first referendum and if we did vote Leave again they would say that ‘something has changed’ – the day of the week maybe? – and demand a third referendum. Like in Eire where they had to vote three times before they got it ‘right’. A proper war of attrition.

    Mrs Smith

    December 17, 2018 at 12:15 pm

  10. Andrew Coates

    December 17, 2018 at 1:34 pm

  11. It’s not now or never! It’s whenever Elsie is convinced enough of us are persuaded to ditch the UK for Germany. Don’t hold your breath Adolf .

    Shirley

    December 17, 2018 at 3:06 pm

  12. It’s not now or never! It’s whenever Elsie is convinced enough of us are persuaded to ditch the UK for Germany. Don’t hold your breath Ad0lf .

    Shirley

    December 17, 2018 at 3:07 pm

  13. It’s not now or never! It’s whenever Elsie is convinced enough of us are persuaded to ditch the UK for Germany.

    Shirley

    December 17, 2018 at 3:07 pm

  14. Dave Roberts asked at the top of this thread, whether “whether it is the contention of this site that Brexit in any way contributed to the murder of Jo Cox?” Coatesy can answer for this site but I’d say the Leave campaign very obviously did. Although the killer wass a far from being a typical ‘Leave’ voter (he is a neo- Nazi and may well be mentally ill), he was undoubtedly stirred into action when he was by the ‘Leave’ campaign. In the wise words of Alex Massie (one of the few journalists to make the link at the time, though he stopped short of holding Farage personally responsible):

    “When you encourage rage you cannot then feign surprise when people become enraged. You cannot turn around and say, ‘Mate, you weren’t supposed to take it so seriously. It’s just a game, just a ploy, a strategy for winning votes.’

    “When you shout BREAKING POINT over and over again, you don’t get to be surprised when someone breaks. When you present politics as a matter of life and death, as a question of national survival, don’t be surprised if someone takes you at your word. You didn’t make them do it, no, but you didn’t do much to stop it either.

    “Sometimes rhetoric has consequences. If you spend days, weeks, months, years telling people they are under threat, that their country has been stolen from them, that they have been betrayed and sold down the river, that their birthright has been pilfered, that their problem is they’re too slow to realise any of this is happening, that their problem is they’re not sufficiently mad as hell, then at some point, in some place, something or someone is going to snap. And then something terrible is going to happen.”

    Jim Denham

    December 17, 2018 at 4:42 pm

  15. Aren’t all Leave voters Neo-Nazis and mentally ill by definition?

    Seriously though, who takes politicians seriously? They are actors, performance artists playing a part. It is a pantomime. That is why we are given an interesting cast of characters – Farage, Rees-Mogg, Bo Jo, they are all entertaining and at times downright funny in their own way. And some not so interesting, Jeremy Corbyn…

    Mother Goose

    December 17, 2018 at 4:53 pm

  16. Totally agree.

    Never forget how devastated people were at the death of our comrade.

    Andrew Coates

    December 17, 2018 at 5:31 pm

  17. Jim Denham has summed all that is worst in the Remain camp and I voted to remain. Leavers weren’t taking a conscious decision it was available to them they were answering the so called left reason for everything of the ” Dog Whistle”, his loony left rhetoric is why the loony left is nowhere. For he and his ilk leavers had no reason behind their decision except hatred, racism and xenophobia.

    Like many in this country I am concerned about massive immigration, the assumption of near dictatorial power by Europe and many other issues but I thought it best on economic terms to remain. If there were to be a re-run I would now vote leave partly as a result of the childish left wing foot stamping of Denham and his comrades.

    Dave Roberts

    December 17, 2018 at 5:34 pm

  18. Dave: you are entitled to your views but you might be a little more persuasive if you showed the slightest evidence of actually reading what I wrote and then made an attempt at a coherent answer.

    Jim Denham

    December 18, 2018 at 9:47 am

  19. Pro-Brexit Gilets Jaunes in the UK:

    Andrew Coates

    December 18, 2018 at 6:10 pm

  20. Andrew Coates

    December 18, 2018 at 6:30 pm


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