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Brexit: A Requiem.

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Did Magna Carta Die in Vain for this?

“The Brexit dream is dying” Boris Johnson.

As “we are truly headed for the status of colony” spare a thought for those who dared to dream.

There is a thorpe in England, Bell End, Bertywoostershire.

Nay but a hamlet, but full, in every nook and herne, with  platoons, little and large.

In the ale-house, on the warm ingle-bench, the smock-frock’d boors sigh heavily o’er their loss.

The day is weary but they recall the merry match when Lord Tariq, wi’ sturdy northern folk from Counterfire, played the cricket team, and took a Beamer from Sir Arron, while wrinkled Vicar Giles smiled gently on.

The Squire, Sir Farrage, and his valet, Mr Galloway, would have many a cream tea at the neighbouring Big Boris Mansion.

Once a mouser was stuck high in the oldest Oak tree, the Lord of the ancient holt, and Yeoman Embery came a-runnin’ to save the feline.

The innocent of the village, Brendan O’Neill, made a tasty stew with that moggie….

The Very Honourable Ress Mogg with his Morris Players…. a sight to behold!

Alas.

Now gone.

Brussels ad portas.

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  1. https://www.theguardian.com/inequality/2017/nov/28/social-mobility-stark-postcode-lottery-too-many-britain-left-behind-alan-milburn-commission-report

    Fear not! This Thorpe in England exists! In spite of 40 odd years of being in the EU, the UK has one of the lowest rates of social mobility in the developed World. But that can’t be one of the reasons that the workers, erroneously, voted to leave the EU, can it?

    Steven Johnston

    July 10, 2018 at 11:01 am

  2. Indeed, and here is a recent picture:

    Andrew Coates

    July 10, 2018 at 11:20 am

  3. Looks a green and pleasant land. Which clean air and cleaner water. All that is missing is Lord Sauron, I mean Claude Juncker.

    Steven Johnston

    July 10, 2018 at 11:30 am

  4. Andrew Coates

    July 10, 2018 at 11:32 am

  5. So it seems, the eye of Sauron has not yet been extinguished in the UK. You must be so happy! “Our” NHS & social services are crumbling but we will still end up sending money to the EU.

    Steven Johnston

    July 10, 2018 at 11:45 am

  6. Well, there is this to celebrate:

    Andrew Coates

    July 10, 2018 at 12:00 pm

  7. You mean your beloved EU didn’t do anything to stop him?

    Steven Johnston

    July 10, 2018 at 12:28 pm

  8. …and you guys stand idle whilst the EU wants it’s own armed forces!
    You can bet they will be deployed on the beaches to beat back the migrants.

    Steven Johnston

    July 10, 2018 at 1:21 pm

  9. Meanwhile,

    “As for Boris Johnson – seen by many as a potential future challenger to Mrs May – Mr Trump said he was a “friend of mine” and he hoped he might find time to speak to him during his visit.

    “He’s been very, very nice to me, very supportive. I like Boris Johnson, I’ve always liked him.”

    Andrew Coates

    July 10, 2018 at 3:54 pm

  10. From Robert Calder:

    SCUDS !!

    to Le Conte Beaujohlies

    Your wail goes up, the Bwreckshit Dream is Dying —

    shatters of scuds over the dawn haze need small scrying:

    said scuds are just scatters and spatters of clouds,

    never sails, merely blowings, ripped literal shrouds —

    at least now you’d said you’d resign and you weren’t lying !!

    Jim Denham

    July 11, 2018 at 8:08 am

  11. The title should be Soft Brexit: A Requim.

    Hard Brexit here we come!

    Steven Johnston

    July 11, 2018 at 11:12 am

  12. The dream that British capitalism should remain within the EU is still alive?
    Though how do we sell this to the workers? Despite the level of exploitation being the same as in non federal state. The problems that capitalism creates exist equally in federal and non federal states, but the federalism is progressive because……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………….. (please fill in the gaps for me)

    Steven Johnston

    July 11, 2018 at 11:52 am

  13. Talking of the homeless.

    Dear homeless people in the UK, it’s better to be homeless in a UK that is part of the EU because………….

    Steven Johnston

    July 11, 2018 at 12:10 pm

  14. federalism is progressive because…………socialists (certainly Marxists) favour fewer borders and larger transnational arrangements even under capitalism Read the Communist Manifesto. This really is a-b-c stuff, but you “lexiteers” just can’t get your heads round it can you?

    Jim Denham

    July 11, 2018 at 2:35 pm

  15. I’m not a lexiteer or a Brexiter a plague on both your houses.
    Socialists favour socialism, not capitalism. Now you can’t get more a-b-c than that.
    I think you need to read the Communist Manifesto, which bit of it didn’t you get?
    Under you argument, both the USSR and the USA are progressive!
    Still, good luck explaining that to the next homeless person you meet. I’m sure that will be of great comfort to them.

    Steven Johnston

    July 11, 2018 at 3:28 pm

  16. Repeating ‘socialism’ at every possible moment is no doubt is an even greater comfort.

    Andrew Coates

    July 11, 2018 at 3:46 pm

  17. Well, Marx didn’t believe that capitalism could be reformed to work in the interests of the working class.
    Perhaps he got that wrong! If he did, then please enlighten me.

    Steven Johnston

    July 11, 2018 at 4:23 pm

  18. Steven: learn to read (and think):

    “The feudal system of industry, in which industrial production was monopolised by closed guilds, now no longer sufficed for the growing wants of the new markets. The manufacturing system took its place. The guild-masters were pushed on one side by the manufacturing middle class; division of labour between the different corporate guilds vanished in the face of division of labour in each single workshop.

    “Meantime the markets kept ever growing, the demand ever rising. Even manufacturer no longer sufficed. Thereupon, steam and machinery revolutionised industrial production. The place of manufacture was taken by the giant, Modern Industry; the place of the industrial middle class by industrial millionaires, the leaders of the whole industrial armies, the modern bourgeois.

    “Modern industry has established the world market, for which the discovery of America paved the way. This market has given an immense development to commerce, to navigation, to communication by land. This development has, in its turn, reacted on the extension of industry; and in proportion as industry, commerce, navigation, railways extended, in the same proportion the bourgeoisie developed, increased its capital, and pushed into the background every class handed down from the Middle Ages.

    “We see, therefore, how the modern bourgeoisie is itself the product of a long course of development, of a series of revolutions in the modes of production and of exchange.

    “Each step in the development of the bourgeoisie was accompanied by a corresponding political advance of that class. An oppressed class under the sway of the feudal nobility, an armed and self-governing association in the medieval commune(4): here independent urban republic (as in Italy and Germany); there taxable “third estate” of the monarchy (as in France); afterwards, in the period of manufacturing proper, serving either the semi-feudal or the absolute monarchy as a counterpoise against the nobility, and, in fact, cornerstone of the great monarchies in general, the bourgeoisie has at last, since the establishment of Modern Industry and of the world market, conquered for itself, in the modern representative State, exclusive political sway. The executive of the modern state is but a committee for managing the common affairs of the whole bourgeoisie.

    “The bourgeoisie, historically, has played a most revolutionary part. ” -Communist Manifesto.

    Jim Denham

    July 12, 2018 at 8:33 am

  19. You need to read the foreword, that should clear it up. You know, the part where he writes that if the wrote the manifesto today it would not doubt be different.
    I have read and Marx and I’m pretty sure I do understand his message. That capitalism cannot be reformed to work in the interests of the working class. Any attempt to try is doomed to failure.

    Steven Johnston

    July 12, 2018 at 12:54 pm

  20. From the Socialist studies website

    I learnt about socialism from them.

    The European Union and the working class

    Will the working class be better or worse off in either by the British government staying in the European Union or by its leaving the EU? This question can be answered by an understanding of the wages system in which workers find themselves exploited and imprisoned. Whether workers are in the European Union or not they will still have to sell their ability to work to an employer. They will still be vulnerable to unemployment. And they will still be exploited by producing more social wealth than they receive in wages or salaries. The problem facing workers is the wages system not the question of EU membership.

    For the capitalist class and their political agents in the various political parties of capitalism; conservative, Labour, UkIP, Liberal Democrats and Greens, there are interests involved in what the European Union is for and how it is controlled. The capitalist class live off the unearned income of rent, interest and profit and pay for their state to look after their interest. And some are worried. The EU is incrementally becoming a state in its own right, and needs financial and monetary control over the affairs of its member countries.

    The potential loss of political control by individual countries – demonstrated recently in Greece and Portugal – is in effect the real worry for sections of the British capitalist class and why they want out. They want their politicians and government to control the frontier, they want to control decision making, they want to control the raising of taxation and they want control over finance and the currency. But it is not an interest shared by the working class. Workers have no country, they have no borders to protect, no state to pay for to look after their affairs and no interest in imports and exports of commodities.

    Those defending the European Union claim that the EU has prevented war in Europe for over 70 years. THE GUARDIAN stated “…an imperfect EU is better than none at all…” and went on to say that the constraining framework of the EU would leave the world “even scarier than now” (October 27th 2015). This is the propaganda of fear.

    The European Union may have prevented wars between member states but it has not stopped member states engaging in wars elsewhere in the world for example Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and now Syria. Capitalism is a hostile and competitive environment, and the possibility of future wars between an EU state and Russia or China is not without foundation. There will be future wars in capitalism whether Britain leaves the EU or not.

    Those who support Britain remaining in the European Union and those who want Britain to leave the EU have to get the support of the working class. Both sides need the support of non-socialist workers. They use arguments, all of them bogus, based on a mixture of fear and reward to gain the votes of workers.

    Workers are told, for example, that 3 million jobs will be lost if Britain left the EU and 3 million jobs will be made if Britain stayed in. Who is right? These statistics are pure guesswork by paid economists on either side of the political argument to stay in or leave the European Union. But they can never give any believable guarantees about future levels of unemployment. The fact is that workers are only employed by capitalists when it is profitable to employ them. And this is largely determined by the trade cycle over which economists and politicians have no control.

    Yes, the question of the European Union is not in essence an economic issue but a political one but it is a politics which does not concern the working class. The problems of trade, sovereignty and taxation are the problems of the capitalist class and their political representatives not the workers.

    Whether workers are employed within the European Union or outside of the EU, they are still an exploited class of wage slaves. Workers have no country; they have no national or European interests to pursue. The only interest workers have is to abolish capitalism and establish socialism.

    Steven Johnston

    July 12, 2018 at 1:32 pm

  21. Cut it as you will, wriggle and dissemble as you will, quote someone saying that if Marx had written it today “it would no doubt be different”: Marx wrote what he wrote and it’s there for all to see. It’s fundamental to Marxism that socialism is made possible by the material advances of capitalism: a-b-c.

    Whoever these “Socialist studies” clowns who’ve mis-educated you on basics may be, they’re idiots who don’t understand (or deliberately misrepresent) the basics.

    Jim Denham

    July 12, 2018 at 3:06 pm

  22. Well Jim, when we get your brand of capitalism, please don’t piss on my back and tell me it’s raining.

    Steven Johnston

    July 12, 2018 at 10:28 pm

  23. Well Stephen, learn some basic Marxism, educate yourself and learn to think: then you’ll just possibly be of a little use (as you’re clearly not at the moment) to the struggle for socialism.

    Jim Denham

    July 12, 2018 at 10:32 pm

  24. Well I guess one of us has to be Jim, as you are cheerleader for British capitalism.

    Steven Johnston

    July 12, 2018 at 10:34 pm

  25. Steven: I suggest you begin your Marxist education with Trotsky’s excellent article Learn to Think, which includes the following:

    “Ultra-left scholastics think not in concrete terms but in empty abstractions. They have transformed the idea of defeatism into such a vacuum. They can see vividly neither the process of war nor the process of revolution. They seek a hermetically sealed formula which excludes fresh air. But a formula of this kind can offer no orientation for the proletarian vanguard.

    “To carry the class struggle to its highest form – civil war – this is the task of defeatism. But this task can be solved only through the revolutionary mobilization of the masses, that is, by widening, deepening, and sharpening those revolutionary methods which constitute the content of class struggle in “peace”-time. The proletarian party does not resort to artificial methods, such as burning warehouses, setting off bombs, wrecking trains, etc., in order to bring about the defeat of its own government. Even if it were successful on this road, the military defeat would not at all lead to revolutionary success, a success which can be assured only by the independent movement of the proletariat. Revolutionary defeatism signifies only that in its class struggle the proletarian party does not stop at any “patriotic” considerations, since defeat of its own imperialist government, brought about, or hastened by the revolutionary movement of the masses is an incomparably lesser evil than victory gained at the price of national unity, that is, the political prostration of the proletariat. Therein lies the complete meaning of defeatism and this meaning is entirely sufficient.”

    Jim Denham

    July 13, 2018 at 8:38 am

  26. Marvellous fella that Trotsky, never was in the military but loved wearing military uniforms.
    He ordered this lot to be shot, even the women and children!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronstadt_rebellion
    But just to complete my socialist education, which bit of this sealed their, well deserved, fate?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronstadt_rebellion#Petropavlovsk_resolution

    Steven Johnston

    July 13, 2018 at 12:13 pm


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