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Anjem Choudary, “enthusiastic supporter of the Islamic State (IS) and an apologist for its brutal crimes”, convicted.

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Choudary: Finally Behind Bars. 

The BBC reports:

One of the UK’s most notorious radical clerics has been convicted of inviting others to support the so-called Islamic State, it can now be reported.

Police said Anjem Choudary, 49, had stayed “just within the law” for years, but was arrested in 2014 after pledging allegiance to the militant group.

Many people tried for serious terror offences were influenced by his lectures and speeches, police said.

Choudary was convicted alongside confidant Mohammed Mizanur Rahman.

Counter-terrorism chiefs have spent almost 20 years trying to bring Choudary, a father of five, to trial, blaming him, and the proscribed organisations which he helped to run, for radicalising young men and women.

Both men were charged with one offence of inviting support for IS – which is contrary to section 12 of the Terrorism Act 2000 – between 29 June 2014 and 6 March 2015.

The verdict on the two defendants was delivered on 28 July, but can only be reported now, following the conclusion of a separate trial at the Old Bailey of another group of men for a similar offence.

Hope Not Hate, an anti-racist group which fights both the European Far-right and Islamist hate-mongers, states,

It has been a long time coming but finally Anjem Choudary, Britain’s most prominent extremist cleric, is behind bars having been found guilty of supporting a terrorist organisation. A four week trial at the Old Bailey heard how he was a vocal and enthusiastic supporter of the Islamic State (IS) and an apologist for its brutal crimes.

HOPE not hate has created a special report on Choudary and his links to terror

www.hopenothate.org.uk/features/anjem-choudary/

Our report reveals:

  • how Choudary became the Islamic State’s Ambassador-at-large during the second half of 2014
  • how Choudary’s international network was the single largest recruiter of Western jihadists
  • how Choudary and his al-Muhajiroun network has been linked to at least 110 Britons who have been convicted of terrorism or terror-related charges or have carried out terrorist acts over the last 20 years.

Read our report here:

www.hopenothate.org.uk/features/anjem-choudary/

Read our report here:

www.hopenothate.org.uk/features/anjem-choudary/

Justice has been a long time coming. For far too long, Anjem Choudary has played a key role as a cheerleader for ISIS, and been allowed to demonise the Muslim community. His actions have been a recruiting sergeant for groups like the EDL.

Although he was treated as a somewhat clown-like, go-to figure for the press as a rent-a-quote extremist, he clearly promoted the disgusting and divisive ideals of the Islamic State, while dozens of his supporters have been connected to terrorist plots, violence or heading overseas to fight in Syria and Iraq.

Finally Choudary can now pay for his actions. Please read our report.

On Shiraz Socialist this post speaks for progressive humanity:

Comrade Dave writes:

I was reading this Hope not Hate post about Anjem Choudary who has been sent down for recruiting for Daesh.
http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/features/anjem-choudary/

What leapt out at me was some of the quotes sound familiar. They are pretty close, in fact share the language, to bits of the left when talking about the middle east or ‘anti imperialist’ regimes.

‘Blame the west’, tell barefaced lies about how tolerant a regime is, then justify its oppressiveness anyway article:

“What the policy of the West has always been is to divide and rule. What they want to say is that these people are extreme, so support the others so as to cause factions to fight with each other. But, in fact, if you look at the history of the Caliphate, even if you look now in the area controlled by the Islamic State, the Jews, the Muslims and the Christians are living side by side in security. It is not true that people are being slaughtered. Those people who are allied with the previous regime or those who are fighting against the Muslims, certainly they will be fought against.”

The blowback article.

“If you look at the death of James Foley,” he said, “you only have to listen to the person who is executing him to know that the blame is the Americans’ because of their own foreign policy. The fact is that decades of torture, cruelty and mass murder will have repercussions.”

The intimation that someone killed in appalling circumstances  is an American agent without actually saying it:

“Now,” he added, “I don’t know anything about these journalists, why they were there, whether they were spying or in fact part of the military. Often it turns out that people have other roles as well.”

This was for the ‘kuffar’ press. His stuff for Islamist audiences differed. But he had learnt all the stock anti imperialist and cultural relativist arguments from the kitsch left and recycled them.

Meanwhile running a global propaganda and recruitment network for Daesh.

This is the real ideology of Daesh (from their magazine Dabiq):.

Remember these words are arms :

The clear difference between Muslims and the corrupt and deviant Jews and Christians is that Muslims are not ashamed of abiding by the rules sent down from their Lord regarding war and enforcement of divine law. So if it were the Muslims, instead of the Crusaders, who had fought the Japanese and Vietnamese or invaded the lands of the Native Americans, there would have been no regrets in killing and enslaving those therein.

And since those mujahidin would have done so bound by the Law, they would have been thorough and without some “politically correct” need to apologize years later. The Japanese, for example, would have been forcefully converted to Islam from their pagan ways. Had they stubbornly declined, perhaps another nuke would change their mind. The Vietnamese would likewise be offered Islam or beds of napalm. As for the Native Americans: after the slaughter of their men, those who would favor smallpox to surrendering to the Lord would have their surviving women and children taken as slaves, with the children raised as model Muslims and their women impregnated to produce a new generation of mujahidin.

As for the treacherous Jews of Europe and elsewhere — those who would betray their covenant — then their post-pubescent males would face a slaughter that would make the Holocaust sound like a bedtime story, as their women would be made to serve their husbands’ and fathers’ killers.

Furthermore, the lucrative African slave trade would have continued, supporting a strong economy. The Islamic leadership would not have bypassed Allah’s permission to sell captured pagan humans, to teach them, and to convert them, as they worked hard for their masters in building a beautiful country. Notably, of course, those of them who converted, practiced their religion well, and were freed would be treated no differently than any other free Muslim. This is unlike when the Christian slaves were emancipated in America, as they were not afforded supposedly government-recognized equal “rights” for more than a century — and their descendants still live in a nation divided over those days.

All of this would be done, not for racism, nationalism, or political lies, but to make the word of Allah supreme. Jihad is the ultimate show of one’s love for his Creator, facing the clashing of swords and buzzing of bullets on the battlefield, seeking to slaughter His enemies — whom he hates for Allah’s hatred of them.

Written by Andrew Coates

August 17, 2016 at 11:07 am

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  1. Here is one reaction on how to deal with the Islamic State genociders:

    Andrew Coates

    August 17, 2016 at 4:31 pm

  2. Bloody hell: I knew he’s an idiot, but that (above) takes the biscuit …

    Jim Denham

    August 17, 2016 at 4:53 pm

  3. Indeed.

    Where are those in the Labour Party and social liberals who foamed at the mouth about Corbyn’s pacifism, “appeasement”, solving wars over a nice cup of tea?

    If he’s have said this we’d never hear the last of it, muesli sarnis, fair-trade tea, and all.

    Now we have this “ill-judged” – that is, off the top of his head – statement about one of the most serious issues facing the world: how to defeat the Daesh genociders.

    What are his supporters going to do about Owen Smith?

    Regarding negotiations with the Islamic State, “Mr Corbyn said: “They are not going to be round the table.”

    Andrew Coates

    August 17, 2016 at 5:06 pm

  4. what about caliphate John Tummon? he’s been quiet lately

    Dean

    August 17, 2016 at 9:09 pm

  5. On this one, Owen Smith is not necessarily wrong. There are only two ways to end civil wars – crushing victory of one side over the other (e.g. Russia 1921, Spain 1939), or rotten compromise. If there are ongoing attempts to stop the wars in Syria and Iraq, they need to involve talking to all the people fighitng. Of course, all the time one or other of the parties hopes to win, the war will carry on regardless. But it is necessary to have the mechanisms for possible peacemaking in place all the time, to take advantage of any opportunity to stop the slaughter. And that means maintaining contacts with everyone involved, through whatever channels are available. We can have no idea which political and military forces will still be standing once serious war weariness sets in in Syria and Iraq – assuming no one side is able to crush all the others. But whoever is still around as an armed political force by then will need to be party to any peace talks. And in the meantime, contacts with and between all the warring parties need to be maintained. That is the reality of wars, and particularly civil wars.

    Francis

    August 17, 2016 at 11:07 pm

  6. Meanwhile:

    “Clerics who hailed killer at mosque
    Reporter: Iram Ramzan
    Date online: 16 August 2016

    CONTROVERSIAL Pakistani clerics who praised an Islamist assassin in Pakistan were allowed to speak at a mosque in Oldham last week.

    Muhammad Naqib ur Rehman and Hassan Haseeb ur Rehman spoke to a large gathering at Madina Mosque and Islamic Centre in Clydesdale Street, Coppice, last Thursday and Friday as part of their seven-week UK tour, Sacred Journey, which runs until September 4.

    After Oldham they went on to speak at mosques in Rochdale and Rotherham

    The clerics led a high-profile campaign in Pakistan in praise of Mumtaz Qadri, who was executed in January after murdering Pakistani politician Salman Taseer in 2011 for opposing Pakistan’s strict blasphemy laws.

    Qadri had claimed it was his religious duty to kill the Punjab governor.”

    More: http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/8/news-headlines/99362/clerics-who-hailed-killer-at-mosque

    Andrew Coates

    August 18, 2016 at 11:48 am

  7. Andrew, Jim. I think you will find numerous ‘Smith people’ telling him he’s an eediot over this. Contrast that with Corbynism’s ‘get in line’. This difference is kindof significant.

  8. Francis – the issue with this is that negotiation with ISIS implies some compromise. On what?

  9. I don’t know, Paul. At this stage we cannot know. And it’s not for us to decide, anyway. Tragically, it looks like the civil war will almost certainly carry on for some time yet. But ultimately, if nobody “wins”, then all the various players – whoever they are by then – will have to talk and reach some kind of deal. The alternative is civil war without end.

    Francis

    August 18, 2016 at 5:57 pm


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