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Daily Mirror descends to utter tripe: Jeremy Corbyn Jeremy Corbyn’s supporters are like Lenin style bully boys who’d send women to the gulag

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Foreign readers of this Blog (and roughly two thirds of the people viewing this site are not from the UK) will have been shaken by the tripe that has been said in this country over the last weeks.

But this is beyond a joke. 

Jeremy Corbyn’s supporters are like Lenin style bully boys who’d send women to the gulag.

Daily Mirror. Carole Malone. Today.

THIS is what the once great Labour Party has become – a hate-filled, violent, lunatic fringe where members who disagree with the hardliners are abused, threatened and intimidated into silence.

In the old days, these militants would be happy to see women like Eagle sent to the gulag and tortured. Today she is tortured on social media by bully boys who believe they’re acting in Corbyn’s name. And what does this supposed man of principle do when women in his party are being threatened with death for challenging him? B*gger all, that’s what! When there’s a TV camera in his face he meekly condemns it and says it’s awful.

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The big joke here is that Corbyn is the one who told us he would make politics kinder. “Kinder politics, a more caring society. These are the values I was elected on,” he said 10 months ago.

And just look what his leadership has done to those values and to the party. Labour, under him, is finished and its politics have never been more vile, more ugly, more hate-filled and more divisive. No Corbyn rally is complete without violence or the threat of it. Anyone who disagrees with the great leader is shouted down as a “ f***ing Tory” or a traitor.

Our great Labour Party used to be one where socialism was achieved through ­parliamentarianism, through democracy.

Under Corbyn, we’re following the Lenin model – where it’s created through ­revolution, intimidation and violence. This kind of socialism doesn’t believe in democracy. And it forces women to live under police protection.

The tragedy here is no matter what Corbyn’s policies are, no matter what he says he wants for the poor and the disenfranchised, no matter how noble his intentions might be, no one is ever going to listen to him while his supporters are threatening to murder women.

As a life-long anti-Stalinist I cannot even begin to explain how offensive this is to me and my comrades.

Written by Andrew Coates

July 18, 2016 at 11:53 am

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  1. “Offensive”? For goodness sake, Andrew, grow a pair! A quick google of Carole Malone shows precisely what sort of hack journalist she is. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carole_Malone . To be on the receiving end of that sort of article from that sort of “journalist” is a badge of honour. “Our great Labour Party…” I expect she had enormous difficulty writing that with a straight face.

    Francis

    July 18, 2016 at 9:55 pm

  2. Very reminiscent of the constant verbal attacks on “BernieBros” in the U.S.

    jschulman

    July 19, 2016 at 6:01 am

  3. Andrew, do you really think it’s beyond belief that, given sufficient power, the extreme members of Momentum, SWP, etc. would do exactly what Malone says? D’you think the kind of people who did that in Russia simply don’t exist in this country? These are the same people, only their actions are constrained by the UK’s democratic and legal system and our cultural history.

    I admit I haven’t read Malone’s article(I used to read the Mirror and I remember her as a strikingly unpleasant, vicious columnist.) but the excerpted piece above strikes me as not that far from the truth. It’s tabloid hysteria, and pretty tasteless stuff – we’re talking about a brick through the window not tens of millions of human beings liquidised – but the general point, that these people would behave far, far worse given the opportunity, isn’t too far off.

    Saul Sorrell-Till

    July 20, 2016 at 1:36 pm

  4. Saul – if Britain were ever to collapse into a catastrophic state like that of the Russian empire in its decade of civil wars, then we would be likely to see appalling behaviour by all political forces fighting for control – left, right and even liberals, as happened in Russia. Outside of that context, there’s not a lot to worry about. Generally speaking, even radical socialists who get hold of power in otherwise stable societies rapidly turn ‘responsible’. We have seen this very many times over the past century. Tsipras is perhaps the most recent example.

    Francis

    July 20, 2016 at 4:45 pm

  5. Exactly, it is an absurd comparison.

    Francis who actually speaks Russian, could further explain this.

    There is simply no parallel.

    Andrew Coates

    July 20, 2016 at 4:57 pm

  6. Of course it’s an absurd comparison. It’s also gratuitously offensive and close to libelous.

    I’m not giving the article any clicks, but I’m informed that she attempted to lay the blame for anti-semitic attacks on Luciana Berger at the door of Labour party members. Berger herself has since made it absolutely clear that the hatemail she received was from far right activists.

    As to the much touted brick through the window, it was thrown through the window of a shared stairwell in a building that houses 6 different organisations. The Labour offices were untouched. There is no more evidence that it was some form of political attack than it was an attempted break-in or mindless vandalism. It’s also along the route of a shortcut home from a supposedly quite rowdy pub, so Occam’s Razor would suggest the latter was much more likely.

    This isn’t to say that there is no bullying and intimidation. There is, from both sides. But it’s only the PLP who have consistently either stretched the truth and outright lied about it in order to weaponise it for political gain. From Tessa Jowell claiming that Eagle suffered homophobic abuse at a Wallasey CLP meeting when she was actually on the other side of the country at the time, to Johanna Baxter claiming that an excruciatingly polite text from Tiny Owen Jones was “intimidating”. It’s utterly dishonest, and runs the risk of devaluing any true claims of intimidation.

    Makhno

    July 21, 2016 at 1:55 pm

  7. Rumour has it that this is the mentor behind the recent political journalism in the UK.

    Andrew Coates

    July 21, 2016 at 2:01 pm

  8. I agree that it’s tasteless and hysterical to jump to Stalinist Russia as soon as the far-left start behaving badly…but I think the underlying premise of her ‘argument’ is correct: that if the people sending death threats and rape threats to PLP members were given sufficient power and societal influence they would not become “responsible”…they would behave in the same way that extreme political movements always behave when handed power, which is to say fantastically badly. By this I don’t mean general Corbynites, or even most of Momentum: I mean the hardcore, a minority but a disproportionately influential one nevertheless, who in every comments section post about how it’s ‘time for us to get out there and retaliate’, the ones who post violent abuse, and talk about traitors and scum in the most frighteningly manichean way. How d’you think Seumas Milne would behave given genuine power? how would the worshipful, cultish Corbynites behave if they were given the chance to silence their enemies?
    I guess my original point was less a defence of a grotty tabloid column and more of an expression of my feeling that people’s underlying psychology and reptilian instincts don’t change, and certainly not in the space of seventy years or so – all that changes is the culture and society in which they live, how skilfully legal constraints are balanced with personal freedom, etc. I speak to some people who seem to have a kind of instinctive trust that nothing like Stalin’s Russia could happen here, and tangled up with that is a belief that the British are a different quality of person; that we possess some kind of innate, semi-spiritual mental bulwark that shields us from the same kind of fanatical, dogmatic -isms that have resulted in Stalinist Russia, Mao’s China, Hitler’s Germany, etc. I don’t believe that, and I think the same kind of person that participated with such fervour in the Communist purges or joined the brownshirts, the same kind of person that committed crimes against humanity that seem utterly alien to us in this day and age, is present in similar numbers in Britain today. The difference is our culture and everything bound up in it, but the kind of audiences to whom Stalin and Hitler appealed is always with us, and it feels like they are becoming more empowered with every passing day.

    Saul Sorrell-Till

    July 22, 2016 at 2:19 pm


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