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Spiked-on-Line, David Icke, the SWP and Nobby Grimsby for Brexit.

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Nobby Grimsby Knows the EU took all the Fish!

Love democracy? Then leave the EU

Why optimists, radicals and progressives should vote out of the EU.

If you are optimistic about the future, vote Leave. If you prefer the adventure of uncertainty over the dull predictability of expert-delivered diktats, vote Leave.

Brendan O’Neill Editor. Spiked (thanks Jelly – one of the elite few who read this crackpot cult of former Revolutionary Communists)

This is indeed the case, as this unpredictable pundit says (Huffington Post)

David Icke, arguably the world’s best-known conspiracy theorist, has come out in favour of leaving the European Union, labelling the bloc a “dictatorship”.

In series of tweets and posts on his website, the broadcaster hit out at the “dark suits running your life” and that real reform is “completely absent” in David Cameron’s deal.

Note (TC): Icke argues that human civilization was created by a network of secret societies run by an ancient race of interbreeding bloodlines from the Middle and Near East, originally extraterrestrial. Icke calls them the “Babylonian Brotherhood.” The Brotherhood is mostly male. Their children are raised from an early age to understand the mission; those who fail to understand it are pushed aside. They rule the Brussels Bureaucracy.

The SWP also believes in science fiction (Socialist Worker):

…if Cameron loses, it will cause a political crisis that he won’t be able to survive.

The EU is also facing a crisis—Britain leaving could begin to break it up. That can strengthen workers fighting the Tories here and those in Greece fighting austerity.

If Cameron loses…if there is a new Tory leader he is not going to be from any quarter other than the hard nationalist right.

Let us leave aside the fact the vast majority of the Greek left (with the exception of the Stalinist Greek Communist Party, Κομμουνιστικό Κόμμα Ελλάδας, KKK  and the SWP micro groupuscle, Antarsya,) stand for transforming the EU in a progressive direction.

If the EU breaks up….if the whole structure falls apart, the beneficiaries will also be the hard nationalist right, from the anti-EU Front National in France onwards.

Some internationalists.

 

 

Written by Andrew Coates

February 24, 2016 at 12:39 pm

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  1. something here for the trainspotters amongst us http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/stephen-jolly-leads-mass-resignation-from-socialist-party-over-allegations-of-abuse-coverup-20160223-gn1d75.html Ozzie Taaffites in dissaray in australia. does anyone see a pattern here?

    m_jelly (@monsieur_jelly)

    February 24, 2016 at 12:47 pm

  2. Can we stop calling Icke “broadcaster” and instead refer to him as “most successful leader of the British Greens” (and maybe “and Godhead”)?

    dagmar

    February 24, 2016 at 12:48 pm

  3. Yet it seems only yesterday that this was nearly part of the Official Green Party Manifesto….

    “A group of reptilian humanoids, called the Babylonian Brotherhood, control humanity… I wish I didn’t have to introduce the following information [on reptilian shape-shifting] because it complicates the story and opens me up to mass ridicule. but I’m not afraid to go where information leads me… Humanity is mind controlled and only slightly more conscious than your average zombie.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reptilians#cite_note-jonson-11

    And to add:
    Good Devil! Hell’s a poppin’! Je suis le véritable pere Duchesne, foutre!!!!

    Socialist Unity’s John Wight has just posted this, ” those on the left who are intent on campaiging for a No vote on June 23 are playing into the hands of Nigel Farage and UKIP, allowing themselves to be recruited as unwitting footsoldiers for the far right.”

    “There is no viable socialist or progressive case for Britain’s exit from the EU in the present political climate. There is only surrender to right wing nostrums on immigration, multiculturalism, and something called British values.”

    http://socialistunity.com/george-galloways-disastrous…/

    Andrew Coates

    February 24, 2016 at 12:56 pm

  4. It’s very difficult to work out just what Spiked is about these days, other than annoying liberals and being contrarian in a decidedly juvenile way. The statement on the EU vote is parliamentary cretinism: Britain has a parliament that is voted in, the EU doesn’t; therefore, get out of the EU. Nothing about the decreasing ability of the British parliamentary institutions to intervene in an increasingly privatised society (about which Spiked says nothing); nothing about the possibility of democratising the institutions of Europe.

    Dr Paul

    February 24, 2016 at 2:19 pm

  5. True Paul but I still detect a – distorted – trace of the RCP’s earlier ‘strong democracy’ position which influenced some of the wording in its Red Front election 1987 Manifesto.

    Spiked, O’Neill, on the EU”. Rather, it is the institution that has grown from and been constantly fed by national elites’ own growing feeling of exhaustion with democracy – and with democracy’s engine: the demos – be it politicians who would rather an aloof court decided something they haven’t got the stomach to debate or advocacy campaigners who agitate for an EC regulation because nothing repulses them more than the idea of trying to win over the plebs of their own nations.making the positive case for real, meaningful, popular democracy”

    The idea that there is an active “demos” in the UK Parliamentary system is pretty strange, in that it is a representative democracy based on the Burkean ideal,

    “Parliament is not a congress of ambassadors from different and hostile interests; which interests each must maintain, as an agent and advocate, against other agents and advocates; but parliament is a deliberative assembly of one nation, with one interest, that of the whole; where, not local purposes, not local prejudices, ought to guide, but the general good, resulting from the general reason of the whole. ”

    Edmund Burke, Speech to the Electors of Bristol. 1774

    Which when you think about it – or rather those who have actually thought about it rather than made contrarian noises, lends itself to the “way of life” argument of nation state favoured by ‘left’ sovereigntists against the alienating cosmopolitanism of, say, the EU.

    That is, the ‘sovereignty’ of the UK Parliament is backed by the ‘Plebs’ who are ‘represented’ in the august majesty of the British Constitutional apparatus.

    However this is clearly in contradiction with more robust ideals of strong democracy, “”In a strong democracy, people –citizens – govern themselves to the greatest extent possible rather than delegate their power and responsibility to representatives acting in their names.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strong_Democracy

    Andrew Coates

    February 24, 2016 at 4:55 pm

  6. you guys are just like these Tory scumbags who left the meeting because of Galloway.
    I salute his indefatigability

    Dean

    February 24, 2016 at 9:04 pm


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