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Guest Post: The Left-Wing Case Against Jeremy Corbyn.

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As a pluralist democratic socialist Blog we publish this guest post, despite reservations about its content.

The author, who wishes to remain anonymous (Herefor more), for fear of on-line terrorism from Corbynistas, was a prominent signatory of the Euston Manifesto (2006).

He contributed  the following lines (removed from the final version), “1. Islamists are tossers. 2. Stalinists are tossers. 3. Most Trots are tossers. 4. So are most Labour leftists. 5. And most anarchists. 6. And every variety of post-modernist.”

I have not left the Left, it’s the left that’s left me.

“I am past-it enough to remember trolleybuses and steam trains, tractors in the Ipswich Buttermarket, and old Suffolk ‘bor’ doffing their caps when the young ‘Master’ visited relatives on the Estate.”

“Apart from my Vlog I have run a successful sweet shop empire in Bixley for the past twenty years, have increased the Labour vote in the Parish Council,   and, for all its faults, have come to terms with the market society.”

“Corbyn is not a wholly wicked man, but the 1980s hard left were all complete bastards.”

“The first thing to know about him is that he’s a boilerplate leftist with a thicko’s take on the world. He barely got his Latin ‘O’ level, and like Hugo Chávez, he speaks fluent Spanish dog Latin!

“Many of Corbyn’s prescriptions are delusional – nationalising everything is not the solution it once was.”

“When he announced plans to create take into public ownership Kebab production I wondered what the people of Green Lanes think!”

“The verbal abuse directed at insufficiently left-wing members of the Labour party during the leadership contest is both comic and sinister.”

“Opponents of the moronic, scraggly bearded,  rabbit food munching, dinosaur, ‘Compo’ Corbyn, who clearly needs a heart-and-brain transplant, do not stoop so low.”

“His ‘anti-Zionist’ international politics, taken from the pages of Der Stürmer are muddle-headed. Bringing an end to war is a little harder than simply declaring oneself a pacifist.”

“My plans to create a special intervention force for Syriya, backed by Turkey and the US, to save the Kurds, have some modest echo: I expect our bearded comrade Corbyn to oppose them!”

“Yesterday when  it was announced that Corbyn plans to sack everybody in Labour HQ and replace them with his own appointees, I was reminded of Pol Pot’s entry into  Phnom Penh –  about to blow up the  National Bank building on Tou Samouth Boulevard.”

“Now I hear from a reliable source that he plans to  put Tariq Ali in the House of Lords!”

The genuine heirs of the Suffragettes and the Chartists and the Tolpuddle Martyrs shouldn’t be cowed by people who view a bar of soap as a tool of capitalist oppression.

“I shall be joining the Resistance!”

Join the Free French, or, the Maquis!

 

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  1. The problem is: often a true word said in jest.

    dagmar

    August 18, 2015 at 3:11 pm

  2. The point is though: Corbyn wasn’t and isn’t the left’s candidate of choice, but he’s the only one we’ve got. Even if he is, to quote Jim Denham (being quoted by Alan Johnson):” part of a de facto anti-democratic, pro-fascist and anti-semitic current that claims to be “left-wing” but is in fact, profoundly reactionary and anti-working class.”

    The teetotal, non-smoking vegetarian dourism is hardly liable to endear Corbyn to a wide electorate for a start, who would probably more interested in that than his very dodgy foreign policy views (or support for alternative medicine).

    To state what has been stated here many times: the left is fecked (see if that gets through the comment filter). Saying all that, I’ve already voted: Corybn 1 for leader, Eagle 1 for deputy, and Lansman and Clark for CAC.

    dagmar

    August 18, 2015 at 3:15 pm

  3. He put the defend Charlie EDM to the House of Commons Dagmar.

    A lot the stuff hurled against him is incredibility exaggerated: I know (having seen him speak at Briefing AGMs right down to when we were reduced to about 15 attendees) that Corbyn always qualifies his statements on international issues.

    I am sure that all the stuff about ‘supporting’ people comes from when what we could call the “petitioners” who attend in a queue at any of these – and other – meeting waiting to get a signature and some encouragement. I doubt if anybody could remember all of them, or the details of what they ask for, even the people asking for his backing.

    I personally wish he’d listen to people in Liberation (ex-Movement for Colonial Freedom, which he Chairs) who have experienced the brutality of Islamism and fight for universal human rights rather than to the Stop the War Coalition foreign policy amateurs.

    We hope, at the least, that most of the dodgy foreign policy views will evaporate – or be evaporated for him – at the first contact with the reality of international politics: I doubt if he’ll do a George Landsbury and spend his time hawking his conscience from body to body.

    But often it’s a virtue to be cautious.

    James Bloodworth (from whom some of the above comes) spent a while trying to create a Labour friends of the Kurds – and pushed for this with pro-Kurdish activists – that would support direct intervention in Syria with US support.

    He was forced to admit when pressed that his priority was simply intervention in Syria.

    Well, he’s got that, with Erdoğan…..

    Though I admit, re; Corbyn, a teetotal vegetarian……

    Andrew Coates

    August 18, 2015 at 3:58 pm

  4. “I personally wish he’d listen to people in Liberation (ex-Movement for Colonial Freedom, which he Chairs) who have experienced the brutality of Islamism and fight for universal human rights rather than to the Stop the War Coalition foreign policy amateurs. ”

    Hear, hear. Recent statements on the EU and Israel-Palestine leave cause for hope.

    BUT: I note “renationalising the railways” has already been watered down into today’s announcement (and current official Labour policy, isn’t it?) that franchises will be taken over by Directly Operated Railways when they run out,

    i.e. the likes of Stagecoach and National Express will carry on getting sackloads of taxpayers subsidies for a long time after a Corbyn government wins an election, especially as a Tory government would just extend the length of their mates’ franchises before they get chucked out at the ballot box.

    This does not bode well – on a policy where most of the UK population across the party spectrum agree for ‘nationalisation’. Do we agree on that, Comrade?

    dagmar

    August 18, 2015 at 4:33 pm

  5. As I rely on the railways – it’s a cause dear (in all senses) to my heart!

    Andrew Coates

    August 18, 2015 at 4:38 pm

  6. Corbyn’s answer “animal suffering” followed by a pregnant pause and then “people suffering” to the quickfire-question “what makes you cry” as asked by Newsnight make me shudder a bit. Animal rights, fair enough, but that is the worst thing in the world (assuming this was how the “what makes you cry” thing was meant to be interpreted)?

    If he was especially honest he would have said “I don’t do emotions or the other personal stuff” – however, i I suppose he is media-savvy enough to know that might have come across badly.

    dagmar

    August 18, 2015 at 4:39 pm

  7. Jeremy Tsipras for leader!

    dagmar

    August 18, 2015 at 4:44 pm

  8. Andrew Coates

    August 18, 2015 at 4:52 pm

  9. I can’t put my finger on it either, but there’s something about people who focus on animal suffering that makes my flesh crawl.

    Perhaps it was clearest when I refused to sign an animal rights petition when we had an anti-war stall on the grounds that they used individual violence and intimidation against ordinary people (which at the time they did, on a big scale, in East Anglia against Huntington Life Sciences http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/animal-rights-group-ends-15year-campaign-against-experiments-at-huntingdon-9687843.html ) and the type who was doing it looked at me with undisguised loathing and hatred.

    Andrew Coates

    August 18, 2015 at 4:59 pm

  10. We once had someone from the Labour Animal Welfare Society at our Young Labour group. The comrade had come up from (of course) Brighton (I suppose it could have been Islington, but it was Brighton) to speak to us East End oiks. She looked the part, all upper-middle class middle-aged hippy.

    When asked whether she was interested in things like homelessness or benefit cuts etc. she said something along the lines of “not really. I put animals at the top of my priority list, the homeless don’t feature much on it at all” (I paraphase. The actual statement I have in memory seems actually to be worse, in my opinion).

    Even the anarcho-vegan at our meeting thought this was a bit, well, “funny”.
    But as someone once screamed on the Nine O’Clock News in the same period: “We’ll never forget Jill Phipps”, who is up there with the Clause 28 lesbians “invading” Nicholas Witchell when it comes to “interruptions on the BBC most people at the time wouldn’t have much of an idea what it was for”.

    Btw, I want that badge brought back (even under Blair the Labour Party Shop sold them) along with the so-retro-it-must-be-very-fashionable-by-now early 1980s red flag design, as strangely featured on a banner (Bristol West CLP’s) in a photograph in my “new member’s pack”.

    dagmar

    August 18, 2015 at 5:32 pm

  11. The one here:

    dagmar

    August 18, 2015 at 5:46 pm

  12. You may scoff, but the Greens are obviously supporting JC with these policy priorities:

    I have supported the campaign against the dog meat trade, as well as campaigning to ban imports of foie gras, following India’s welcome lead on this issue.

    Our country and our party have much to be proud of on animal welfare, but we still have further to go to match the best practice around the world. This is another reason why we must resist the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP), which would threaten the European and national legislative protections that we have campaigned together to achieve.

    If elected leader, I pledge that a Labour government in 2020 will continue to advance our animal welfare protections so that they are the best in the world – and I hope that you will hold me to that pledge.

    dagmar

    August 18, 2015 at 5:48 pm

  13. I happen to like foie gras..

    My favourite lunch this time of year is, incidentally, Frisée aux Lardons (I grow and blanch the first, the second, not at present):

    Andrew Coates

    August 18, 2015 at 6:00 pm

  14. 12 September, Trafalgar Square, Foie Gras Supper with the Tendance, see you there

    dagmar

    August 18, 2015 at 6:19 pm

  15. “I can’t put my finger on it either, but there’s something about people who focus on animal suffering that makes my flesh crawl.”

    In fairness, he does make important exceptions. Russia burning ducklings alive is understandable to Jeremy, because Putin’s behaviour is all ‘provoked’ by the Evil West.

    Meanwhile, here’s another ‘Friend of Jeremy’, whose exclusion from Britain by Home Secretary Jacqui Smith Corbyn protested against in 2009 (i.e. he was not ‘just someone Jeremy met in passing and couldn’t possibly know anything about’, which is becoming the Corbynite excuse of choice regarding a long line of dodgy people:

    “http://www.express.co.uk/news/…

    As the war in Iraq raged in 2004, Jahjah told Flemish magazine “I consider every dead Dutch, British and American soldier a victory”.

    He has also dubbed the 9/11 terror atrocities in the US as “sweet revenge”, attacked Europe for “Jew-worshiping” and referred to gay people as “Aids spreading faggots”.

    Oh, and he’s a Holocaust Denier too. Yes, I know, no points for originality. For someone who supposedly talks to all kinds of people from all parts of the political spectrum, it’s funny how on closer examination Jeremy’s friends are almost invariably:

    a) anti-western
    b) anti-semitic
    c) homophobic

    Perhaps a Corbyn enthusiast can tell us what Jewish or LGBT people are supposed to make of Jeremy’s efforts to bring yet another such scumbag into this country.

    Lamia

    August 19, 2015 at 2:30 pm

  16. This is Dave Osler’s reply to Bloodworth (who’s Sunday Times article is the target) and the rest of this charade:

    Cold fish Corbyn claim is codswallop.

    It deals with foreign policy as well:

    http://www.leftfutures.org/2015/08/cold-fish-corbyn-claim-is-codswallop/

    Andrew Coates

    August 19, 2015 at 4:52 pm

  17. And this:

    “In fact Corbyn has come out for the two states solution to the Israel-Arab-Islamic conflict. In a recent interview with the New Statesman, Corbyn responded to the question “Do you support Israel’s right to exist” with “Yes”. That makes him qualitatively better than most of the left, which is for the destruction of Israel and the removal of self-determination from the Jewish Israelis which it embodies.

    The truth, though, is that it is a healthy instinct that makes young people side with the Palestinians and against their Israeli oppressors. The pseudo-left then leads them into vicious Arab and Islamic chauvinism and indifference — at best — to rampant anti-Semitism. The Jewish Chronicle is mistaken however, that the major problem is the willingness of left-wing leaders to share platforms and other forms of association with anti-Semites.

    The basic problem in the left is “absolute anti-Zionism” — opposition to the existence of the Jewish state. From that all the rest follows. There is nothing to be done about it except to confront it politically and — for the benefit of young people and people new to politics who have not considered the complexities of the issue — argue and debate the question. That Jeremy Corbyn is for two states can be an important, positive, factor here.”

    Sean Matgamna.

    Just published: http://www.workersliberty.org/node/25455

    Andrew Coates

    August 19, 2015 at 5:33 pm

  18. Once more …

    Something which just came up and had not crossed my mind: has Corbyn during his campaign made a foreign policy speech or put out a foreign policy statement? I’m not aware of any.

    Yes, the question could go to the other candidates as well.

  19. Boleyn Ali

    August 20, 2015 at 12:49 pm

  20. @Paul @Boleyn

    It must have made the SWPers/Rees/German & Co. choke to publish Corbyn’s affirmation of a ” safe and viable Palestinian State alongside a safe and viable Israel.

    And on the EU Corbyn has come out for staying in and fighting to change it, not for withdrawal as most of the so-called left argue for.

    dagmar

    August 20, 2015 at 4:22 pm

  21. They are crowing about their influence on Corbyn at the moment – we shall see….

    I very very much doubt if it will survive real office.

    Andrew Coates

    August 20, 2015 at 4:27 pm

  22. Who? Rees-German? They couldn’t organise a piss up in a north-london cafe. That they ran. If bringing Corbyn to publicly defend the existence of Israel is how they describe “influence”, bring it on, as Dave Osland might have once said.

    dagmar

    August 20, 2015 at 4:53 pm

  23. Left bubble politics has its own truths and realities….

    Andrew Coates

    August 20, 2015 at 5:41 pm

  24. wordpress

    Paul Canning

    August 20, 2015 at 8:17 pm

  25. blogspot

    dagmar

    August 20, 2015 at 8:19 pm


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