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Giles’s Grandmother Goes Jeremy Corbyn in Ipswich.

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Latest Recruit to Corbyn Campaign: Giles’s Grandmother.

As Trotskyist infiltrators swarm to tonight’s Jeremy Corbyn meeting in Norwich Ipswich saw a new supporter of the Labour leadership candidate: The Grandma statue, based on the character in Carl Giles’s cartoons.

https://no81bob.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/giles-grandma.jpg?w=700

 

She is a merry soul these days.

Written by Andrew Coates

August 6, 2015 at 11:26 am

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  1. Great stuff comrade, as the young people might say;)

    Mick Hall

    August 6, 2015 at 11:37 am

  2. Giles used to say that he was a socialist.

    ” In Giles’ cartoons Grandma thus came to embrace every form of extreme opinion, from fervent Royalism to revolutionary socialism – she even had a portrait of Lenin on her bedroom wall.”

    https://www.cartoons.ac.uk/print/684

    Andrew Coates

    August 6, 2015 at 11:43 am

  3. Andrew,

    thanks for the reminder of Giles – I’ve never read the Express but used to enjoy Giles cartoon albums back in the day.

    Above this story, you have a one on the dreadful murder of another heroic secular Bengali blogger, Niloy Neel. As you are surely aware, Mr Corbyn, along with most of his fellow ‘anti-imperialists’ is invariably to be found on the side of – and on often the same platform with – the very Islamists who incite such murders, and are at best indifferent towards, and at worst hostile to the victims of Islamism?

    Isn’t this a bit of a problem for you as a Corbyn supporter? I think it’s a pretty major problem when you have a Labour party that by its apologism and alliances would be doing more to aid anti-Enlightenment forces than anything the Tories or even UKIP could manage. Electing Corbyn will render most left wing finger-wagging about ‘human rights’ – and let’s bear in mind, that’s pretty high on the list of left pastimes – gross hypocrisy.

    Lamia

    August 8, 2015 at 3:14 pm

  4. I think you can imagine that I have not shut up about these issues.

    The paradox is that Jeremy Corbyn is the Chair of Liberation http://liberationorg.co.uk/

    I am also a member of this (Movement for Colonial Freedom): it corresponds very closely to my overall (not detailed naturally) politics.

    Liberation supports many of the causes of universal human rights – in countries such as Bangladesh – and publishes on a regular basis material ferociously critical of Islamism in a huge number of countries, from Iran, Sudan to the Middle East.

    For example: Saudi women activists convicted Memri reports on their struggle for human rights http://liberationorg.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Vol-56-No.5.pdf

    Islam and patriachy . Irakli Tusiashvili exposes an oppressive ideology.
    March 2013. (Their site does not put all the issues of their journal up to date). http://liberationorg.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Vol-56-No.1.pdf

    This is about as pure Enlightenment criticism of Islam the patriarchal religion and Islamism the politics as you could possibly get.

    As I say they have had specific and detailed coverage of the genocidal activities of Islamists in Bangladesh, in the past, and in issues more recent to those available on-line.

    They have covered the Kurdish struggle in detail, and of the rise of Daesh, and not from the standpoint of finding all the problem in US actions.

    All of these articles are written by people with detailed experience of the areas they talk about.

    One would hope that Jeremy Corbyn would take note of what people in the pages of Liberation say.

    Andrew Coates

    August 8, 2015 at 4:15 pm

  5. The right-wing campaign to demonise Jeremy Corbyn – and, more importantly, the socialist and left ideas he has come to symbolise in the past few weeks – is only going to get more intense. In that right-wing campaign, a special role is going to be played by Corbyn’s critics on the “left”: Blairites, moralising ultra-left sectarians, obsessive advocates of single-issue identity politics – the usual dreary suspects. They will pick on every real or imagined sin of commission or omission on Corbyn’s part. They will make a song and dance about every dubious person who has ever spoken at the same rally as Corbyn. They will repeat endlessly any and every daft thing Corbyn has ever said at any meeting over the past 45 years. The tone of their criticisms will be carping, or moralising, or petulant, or whatever – anything you like, but not constructive. But their aim will be one and the same – to bash Corbyn in order thereby to bash the rest of the left.

    On the most important issues – austerity, welfare cuts, housing, public services, racism, equality, peace – Jeremy Corbyn is generally to be found on the right side. That doesn’t mean that all his positions are always above criticism – he’s a politician, not a superhero. But Andrew is quite right to back him, whatever reservations he may have about some of Corbyn’s positions on this or that. It’s the big picture which matters.

    Francis

    August 8, 2015 at 11:47 pm

  6. Summed up and said it clearly.

    Looking at the press yesterday and today – how right you are Francis!

    Andrew Coates

    August 9, 2015 at 1:01 pm

  7. @Francis.

    “The right-wing campaign to demonise Jeremy Corbyn…”

    Corbyn is friends with numerous people who (amongst other horrible things) advocate my murder. Objecting to that does not make me right wing or mean that I am ‘demonising’ Corbyn.

    Instead of smearing those who have good reason to be alarmed by Corbyn’s enthusiasm for misogynists, homophobes and antisemites, you would do better to hold Corbyn accountable for his failings. They may not matter to you; women, gay people and Jews might, understandably, find they matter; to react to that with a smear, let alone to trivialise such objections as ‘moralising’, is despicable. If bringing it up is detrimental to the Labour Party, then that’s Labour’s fault for having such a person within its ranks, not mine.

    “That doesn’t mean that all his positions are always above criticism – he’s a politician, not a superhero.”

    Most people manage to get through life without striking up loads of friendships with bloodthirsty advocates for ending the rights and indeed lives of certain social minorities. It doesn’t take a superhero. I manage NOT to share platforms with people who support killing or oppressing various minorities, quite easily. So does almost the entire rest of the public.

    Lamia

    August 12, 2015 at 12:04 pm


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