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Vatican Plea to Stop Atrocities Against Christians and other Minorities as Pakistani Christians Murdered.

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Stop the War Coalition has no Answer to their Desperate Plight.

Two bomb blasts have killed at least 14 people near two churches in a Christian neighbourhood of the Pakistani city of Lahore, local officials say.

More than 70 people were hurt in the explosions, which targeted worshippers attending Sunday mass at the churches in the Youhanabad area.

Violent protests erupted after the blasts, with a mob killing two men accused of involvement in the attacks.

Pakistan’s Christian community has often been targeted by militants.

An offshoot of the Pakistan Taliban, calling itself Jamatul Ahrar, has said it carried out the attack.

Witnesses say suicide bombers were responsible for the explosions but police have not confirmed this.

The bombers are said to have detonated their explosives near the gates of St John’s Catholic Church and Christ Church.

March 15th BBC.

The Vatican says force may be necessary to stop attacks on Christians and other Middle East minorities by Islamic State (IS) if no political solution is found.

Archbishop Silvano Tomasi, the Vatican’s top diplomat at the UN in Geneva, said jihadists were committing “genocide” and must be stopped.

The Vatican traditionally opposes military intervention in the region.

However, Pope Francis decried the beheading in February of 21 Egyptian Coptic Christians by IS in Libya.

The militants have targeted minority religious groups in the parts of Syria and Iraq under their control. Thousands more people have been forced to flee their homes.

March 15th BBC.

Stop the War Coalition calling for support for 21st March anti-Racist Demonstration,

Anti-Muslim racism is spreading and intensifying. Islamophobic measures and rhetoric have ramped up as the ‘war on terror’ has dragged on and the situation in the Middle East deteriorated. To break this cycle it is essential not just to recognise these facts, but to stand up against Islamophobia and to step up the campaign against the disastrous foreign wars.

After the Charlie Hebdo massacres, Tim Sanders (Socialist Review, SWP),

I have a radical, non-satirical idea to prevent further atrocities like this: How about not invading other people’s countries?

What kind of answers are these to a problem obviously deeper-rooted than anything to do with Western Intervention?

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  1. As long as this fascist Islam Muslim Cult exists on the planet then death and destruction will be the norm. The problem is that most people know this as well as the leftie apologists but they think Capitalism is to blame. Silly irriots they are. If only the leftie idiots could read history before 1948 where it began according to them.

    Glesga Keeping Scotland Free From Loonies

    March 17, 2015 at 2:24 am

  2. the remit of the STWC is to stop Britain from taking part in foreign wars. It is not concerned as an organization with every single human rights abuse, such as this issue of Christians in Pakistan.

    However, there is also another reason. This is because the John Rees + SWP led left have made an unholy alliance with Islamicists. there is a contradiction in ideology, but this is shuffled and dismissed for the moment. Therefore, in front of Islamicists, feminists and socialists remain quiet over abortion and gay rights and the hijab itself. opportunism. the stronger will swallow the weaker.

    Kimchee

    March 17, 2015 at 2:50 am

  3. I’m trying to think why any of the groups targeted by ISIS and their comrades should show any solidarity with the causes favoured by the SWP left. They’re against austerity, but cool with teenage girls being enslaved and raped, ethnic and religious minorities being exterminated, aid workers being beheaded, gay people, apostates from Islam and ‘adulterers’ being stoned to death… but they’re passionately against ‘injustice’ and ‘austerity’.

    Nope, still can’t think a of a good reason to lift a finger to help such evil, deranged scum. And fuck Ken Loach.

    Lamia

    March 17, 2015 at 6:00 pm

  4. Lamina, the Editorial of the ‘I’ (at forty pence, the journal of reference for the militant working class – with Le Monde of course), called Isis Fascist on Monday.

    This is what they were referring to: Life under Isis: The everyday reality of living in the Islamic ‘Caliphate’ with its 7th Century laws, very modern methods and merciless violence. Patrick Cockburn.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/life-under-isis-the-everyday-reality-of-living-in-the-islamic-caliphate-with-its-7th-century-laws-very-modern-methods-and-merciless-violence-10109655.html

    There are 2 page reports on this every day this week in this paper, “Inside the ‘Islamic State”.

    Andrew Coates

    March 17, 2015 at 6:44 pm

  5. Andrew, Cockburn’s stuff is interesting and he is one of the more even-handed correspondents but even he is glossing over ISIS somewhat here as initially being ‘moderate and popular’. That is based on interviewing Sunni Arabs, conveniently ignoring the ethnic and religious groups that (as Cockurn himself earlier notes) ISIS have dispossessed and either forced to flee or exterminated or enslaved. I remember Cockburn’s certainty last September that ISIS would take Kobani – followed later by a grudging downplaying of the the significance of its defeat there. There is a pattern here.

    The rest of the mainstream left media are even worse on ISIS, and there seems to be no desire among them for ISIS to be defeated. You yourself know that even socialist Kurds have gained very little support there. There is something quite creepy about the determined defeatism of Cockburn and co, and it is mimicked on right and left alike in the media (the right wing media in the US seems quite grimly content in its certainty that ISIS can’t be stopped, and the only lesson it has drawn is that this shows Obama is a communist/Muslim etcetera).

    Lamia

    March 17, 2015 at 8:16 pm

  6. There’s a much easier way to get at STWCuk, namely their position on Ukraine, which amounts to 100% support for Russian imperialism and parroting the Russian Foreign Ministry.

    Here’s repression of religious minorities in ‘Novorussia’ > http://america.aljazeera.com/multimedia/2015/3/in-rebel-held-donetsk-religious-intolerance-grows.html

    And in Crimea > http://www.rferl.org/content/crimea-russia-annexation-fighting-back-tatars/26905890.html https://www.amnesty.org/en/articles/blogs/2015/03/crimea-peninsula-of-fear/

    I don’t understand why Ukraine is not a bigger issue on the left in the UK. Bar occasional posts on Shiraz Socialist and the great work that AWL has done on communicating with Ukrainian socialists and anarchists. Bar them there seems to be not much interest. What’s going on?

  7. I leave it to Shiraz – the AWL has people who follow events in Ukraine closely.

    There are plenty of other leftists who post on Facebook in the same vein.

    In the case of Islamism I have some knowledge, which is why I concentrate on this. Particularly as a lot of the material is in French – for all kinds of reasons (the bilingually educated in the Maghreb, the Lebanese French speakers).

    Secularism generally is something I write about.

    Shall I add that apart from coming a family with very old humanist/atheist connections one of the first serious books I read as an adolescent was L’Île des Pingouins by Anatole France?

    Andrew Coates

    March 18, 2015 at 5:58 pm

  8. Wasn’t knocking you Andrew. Your stuff is fab and the French angle essential reading. Just having another day seriously effed off with the influence of STWCuk (they have a new trash piece on Ukraine) Pilger, Chomsky and the rest.

  9. Paul, I think one of the reasons the STWC crowd have not taken any heat re Ukraine is that they have been echoed on the right by useful idiots who are more concerned with presenting the EU as some fascist/communist empire than with taking seriously an actual ex-KGB proto-fascist who actually invades countries and actually kills large numbers of people. They are falling over themselves to see the best in Putin’s behaviour and motives. Such idiocy – wilful blindness, in fact – has become a quite acceptable mainstream ‘view’. It’s grotesque, of course, and I say that as someone who has little time for the EU itself.

    Lamia

    March 19, 2015 at 1:43 am

  10. It’s also grotesque when you see them, full of self-importance and self-satisfaction, on Russia Today.

    As Seamus Milne was last night .

    Not incidentally that I have much time for the Ukrainian government, but when you hear some of the stuff on RT etc……

    Andrew Coates

    March 19, 2015 at 12:58 pm


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