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Boko Haram: The Bankruptcy of ‘Islamophobia’

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The World is Concerned at Fate of Nigerian Schoolgirls. But is the British left? 

Seamus Milne has a  simple explanation for Islamist violence.

On the 23rd of April he wrote (Guardian – extracts) ,

It’s the result of ” support for tyranny and military intervention in the Middle East over a century. That record has been the central factor in the rise of Islamist movements and the jihadist backlash since 2001. This week’s US missile attacks in Yemen, which left dozens dead, will generate more of it.”

This ‘backlash’ fuels “a toxic blend of messianic warmongering abroad and McCarthyite witch-hunting at home.

“Meanwhile, in Britain and other countries preparing for next month’s Euro elections, denunciations of Islamic “extremism” and non-existent plots, along with dog-whistle talk about Christianity, are the small change of the contest with rightwing populists. But the fear and hatred they feed will be with us for many years to come.”

John Rees is equally concerned about what he calls a “New Wave of Islamophobia” (StWC 24th of April).

His explanation tallies with Milne’s.

“Islamophobia remains very closely related to the war on terror and the ideologies developed to justify it. It is state and establishment driven to an unusual degree. ”

” The Stop the War movement has forged lasting ties with this community. It has correctly identified the cause of Islamophobia and integrated campaigning against it into the wider campaign to eradicate the war on terror from which it arose. It is time to renew that resistance.”

They are so concerned about Islamophobia that this pair have yet to comment on a story about Islamism that is dominating the world media’s headlines: Boko Haram.

The leader of Nigerian Islamist extremist group Boko Haram has said that more than 270 schoolgirls snatched from their dormitories were “slaves” whom he planned to sell in the market.

“I abducted your girls,” a man claiming to be Abubakar Shekau, the group’s leader, said in a video seen by the Guardian. “I will sell them in the market, by Allah. I will sell them off and marry them off. There is a market for selling humans.

“Women are slaves. I want to reassure my Muslim brothers that Allah says slaves are permitted in Islam,” he added, in an apparent reference to an ancient tradition of enslaving women captured during jihad, or holy war.

Speaking in northern Nigeria‘s Hausa language during a rambling hour-long speech, he threatened further attacks on schools and warned the international community not to get involved in Nigeria. Shekau has previously called western education “a plot against Islam” and urged his fighters to kill students and teachers.

“I will marry off a woman at the age of 12. I will marry off a girl at the age of nine,” he said at another point in the video.

Guardian.

This raises two questions about those crying about ‘Islamophiobia’.

Firstly, Boko Haram are Islamists. They are far from the Middle East. What evidence is that they are  “blow-back” against the ‘war on terror’?

Secondly, since they clearly are terror what is to be done against them except waging a “war”?

Some people may try to ‘explain” Boko Haram.

The most important thing is to condemn and fight against them.

On the 15th of April the Socialist Party of Nigeria (aligned to the Socialist Party in England and Wales) issued this declaration about bomb attacks (by the same Islamists) in Abuja.

What the outpouring of agitation and protests against the attack urgently demands is an accurate leadership from the working people’s organisations including the Nigeria Labour Congress and Trade Union Congress with the Joint Action Front (JAF) to spearhead an immediate mass movement nationwide against the growing terrorist activities and killings as well as the palpable incompetence and incapacitation of the government to rein in the terror. While the NLC has issued a press statement to condemn the attack, it must join forces with other pro-working people’s political organisations to name a DAY OF NATIONAL MOURNING AND MASS PROTESTS. The National Day of mourning and mass protests against terror must also include the demands against the anti-poor policies like education attacks, mass unemployment and poverty wages.

SPN.

What protests are the British left mounting in solidarity?

Written by Andrew Coates

May 6, 2014 at 10:37 am

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  1. Reblogged this on Bennytopa's Mirror.

    bennytopa

    May 6, 2014 at 12:56 pm

  2. Excellent post.

    Jim Denham

    May 6, 2014 at 4:03 pm

  3. Andrew – you’re coming dangerously close to John Major’s famous “we need to understand a little less and condemn a little more” remark at that Tory party conference. There is no contradiction whatsoever between trying to explain and make sense of Islamist terror groups on the one hand, and fighting them on the other. “Know your enemy” is always a good principle, and if these groups have significant social support then it is surely not only useful but vital to understand why.

    Francis

    May 6, 2014 at 5:25 pm

  4. Posted to my unions Face Book page! (PCS)

    Howard Fuller

    May 6, 2014 at 6:51 pm

  5. ‘Understanding’ is a perfectly sensible aim, but it’s best not to let it lead to ridiculously simplistic explanations. To the trained or untrained eye it isn’t obvious why Western actions in the Middle East should cause atrocities in West Africa. It seems very convenient to blame regimes or policies you don’t like for everything that goes wrong in society.

    Igor Belanov

    May 6, 2014 at 7:58 pm

  6. “To the trained or untrained eye it isn’t obvious why Western actions in the Middle East should cause atrocities in West Africa”.
    Yes it isn’t obvious is it? But neither is it obvious who has made this causal link. Coates cites an article by Milne which relates Islamist violence in the Middle East to imperialist intervention in the Middle East, and an article by John Rees linking Islamophobia to the war on terror, which frankly to the vast majority of sentient people would barely seem controversial. Coates points out that neither of them mention Boko Haram, let alone explain it as caused by Western actions in the Middle East. So it’s obvious the Scarecrow is your favourite Wizard of Oz character. But as you are opposed to any “explanations” of any kind of why a group like Boko Haram might exist or prosper, it doesn’t really matter what linkage is invoked, does it? I could provide a meticulous account of recent Nigerian history which didn’t mention the Middle East at all, but I still would be denounced as an apologist for terror since what real opponents of terror do is huff and puff and denounce the endless hordes of imaginary apologists, appeasers and fifth columnists.
    “What protests are the British left mounting in solidarity?”
    Well obviously none, as they all support Boko Haram. What protests are you and your pals mounting in solidarity? What concrete demands would you raise on such a protest? Support for the Nigerian government? Calls for a British humanitarian intervention – maybe the SAS can sort this out?

    puss wallgreen

    May 6, 2014 at 8:33 pm

  7. “The World is Concerned at Fate of Nigerian Schoolgirls. But is the British left? ”

    “The world”, eh? I’ve noticed nothing about this in the German broadsheet press at all. Does “the world” now mean the British media, France-Inter, Le Monde and Liberation? And maybe the Norfolk Daily Press?

    dagmar

    May 6, 2014 at 8:50 pm

  8. I take that back, partly. This piece of news has now reached Deutschlandradio and the “quality” press (tomorrow’s editions).

    dagmar

    May 6, 2014 at 9:50 pm

  9. Incidentally, how does this stuff about the British left square with your disassociating yourself from Cohen on the grounds that you were only referring to a tiny Nigerian group? But can we get this straight, you and Denham and the HP crowd are planning some initiative that will concretely help the situation of the Nigerian schoolgirls, and you are worried that it will be thwarted by John Rees and Seamus Milne? Can you provide more details?

    puss wallgreen

    May 6, 2014 at 9:58 pm

  10. I deliberately cited what the Socialist Party of Nigeria is doing.

    Answer that.

    Oh, Dagmar, it’s the East Anglian Daily Times (EADT) that’s all local – fading away – paper.

    Andrew Coates

    May 7, 2014 at 11:57 am

  11. Lindsey German steps into the fray:

    “Western intervention will turn Nigeria into an African Afghanistan

    The plight of kidnapped girls is set against the corruption and inequality that the west’s economic war has helped to create.”

    German manages to get round the inconvenient fact that the West has no “war on terror” in Nigeria by this mangled sleight of hand,

    “But there is another war going on in Africa: economic war. A continent so rich in natural resources sees many of its citizens live in terrible conditions. In President Jonathan’s Nigeria, economic growth has not trickled down to the poor. Healthcare and education are beyond the reach of many.

    There is widespread corruption, yet weapons and armies are paid to protect the wealthy and the foreign companies, such as Shell, that want to access the country’s resources, especially oil. This corruption and inequality is not separate from the role of the west, but an integral part of a system that is prepared to go to war over resources such as oil and gas, but will not go to war on poverty or to provide education for all.2

    So Boko Haram, the slavery that they will drive women into, are all the West’s fault.

    “It is this background that informs the terrible plight of the kidnapped girls in Nigeria. It will not be improved by more western weapons and armies on the ground or in the air.”

    So the Islamists can use their weapons and armies?

    We may be opposed to a Western intervention in Nigeria – were one on the cards.

    But who exactly is going to rescue these girls and fight Boko Haram?

    It this background that explains why most people will not touch the Stop the War Coalition of Lindsey German

    Andrew Coates

    May 7, 2014 at 1:12 pm

  12. “I deliberately cited what the Socialist Party of Nigeria is doing. Answer that”
    The SP statement say “mass protests against terror must also include the demands against the anti-poor policies like education attacks, mass unemployment and poverty wages”. So terrorism is explained by poverty, mass unemployment and cuts in education, which are of course all the fault of the west. What is this .but the most shameful apologism for Boko Haram? The statement says nothing about who is going to rescue these girls and fight Boko Haram, nor the need to fight a war against them which you say is the most important thing.
    But your post was not about the Nigerian left, but about the British left, which is not concerned about the fate of the schoolgirls. I ask again, what practical difference does your immense concern make? What are you doing that an unconcerned person wouldn’t do? Since you are apparently opposed to a Western intervention anyway how do you practically differ from Rees, Milne et al, except in your immense self-righteousness?

    puss wallgreen

    May 7, 2014 at 4:56 pm

  13. So who in the Western left is doing anything about the abduction of girls in Nigeria? Rather less than those that say ‘something must be done’, but do nothing themselves other than criticise others who (strangely like themselves) do nothing.

    I do not see Nick Cohen as a guide to anything and it is a pity that many on the left do. There is nothing to be gained from saying “you are bastards for doing nothing” when you do nothing yourself, nor indeed can even spell out a viable way to go.

    That is just posturing against an imagined corrupt leftist enemy. We know Cohen has fantasy enemies on the left, but there is no reason to join him.

    Pinkie

    May 7, 2014 at 8:08 pm

  14. Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Tories Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam, Islam

    About as prominent a theme on this blog, as ‘Jews’ in Mein Kampf

  15. If anybody is incapable of feeling strongly about this then what do they feel strongly about?

    Nigerians have called for the issue to be raised across the world.

    #BringBackOurGirls focuses world’s eyes on Nigeria’s mass kidnapping

    (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/07/twitter-hashtag-bringbackourgirls-nigeria-mass-kidnapping)

    Were we in a situation to help, then, people would do more.

    Reports indicate that outside pressure has helped push offers of the practical need that may aid.

    The political point is that blaming Boko Haram on the West, is bankrupt, that ‘Isamophobia’ is a bankrupt word, and that the groups that use these words as the mainstay of their explanations, are bankrupt.

    If I have succeeded in being more indignant than Rees, Herman and Milne, even the lot of the bunch put together, then the post is a great success.

    Andrew Coates

    May 8, 2014 at 10:36 am

  16. Obviously Southpaw you are very familiar with Mein Kampf.

    Handy eh?

    Andrew Coates

    May 8, 2014 at 11:00 am

  17. Southpaw is correct to highlight this blogs obsession with Islam, i have noticed the same obsession among virtually every right wing group in Europe and the USA, without exception actually.

    And Southpaw is correct to make the link with Nazism I think, because while Mr Coates details every killing by Muslims around the world he is rather more silent on the killing of Muslims in places like Nigeria. From reading Coates blog you would think every now and again Islamists just decided to murder people for kicks.

    The only, and I mean only, conclusion you can draw from this is the following:

    Coates thinks it is the worst crime possible when Muslims kill others but it is perfectly ok for Muslims to be slaughtered.

    So very much a Nazi way of thinking.

    Socialism In One Bedroom

    May 8, 2014 at 5:05 pm

  18. The only answer for Africa and these particular girls is a fully conscious armed working class organised for socialist policies. The corruption in Africa is all home grown nowaays, probably always was, and the African masses need to deal iwth it. ‘Fraid these girls are lost, the only hope is that it doesn’t happen again. But it will. I don’t know how much genuine support these Islamic terrorist groups have, they cower their opponents into submission with arbitarary executions and punishments. Anyone who apologises for them is a scumbag and anti-revolutionary.

    Sue R

    May 8, 2014 at 6:00 pm

  19. Sometimes its important, as a leftist, to make it clear where you stand, even if you can’t do much – or even anything at all – to change the situation. It’s clearly important that principled socialists condemn Boko Harem without qualification. The Lindsey German Guardian piece is a disgrace that gives the lie to those who try to make out that Coatesy and Cohen are misrepresenting much of the liberal-“left” when they describe them as as apologists for the most vicious form of fascistic Islamism imaginable.

    Jim Denham

    May 9, 2014 at 1:41 am

  20. So the leader of a group which “most people will not touch” (Coates) and is a :”nasty little rump” (AWL) now represents “much of the liberal “left:, does she? I release to a great extent this is a thoroughly pointless debate, and trying to question the idées fixes of middle aged male ex-leftists who drink a lot and feel a lot of impotent rage is never a good idea – it’s rather like debating somebody who believes Obama is always apologising for America, even by entering the terrain you have surrendered some of your sanity. But you might at least consider how language looks to ordinary people, for whom “apologist for Boko Haram” would mean “somebody who defends the general positions and actions of Boko Haram”. And since your prime exhibits to illustrate the entire western left’s apologism for BH is an article by a Nigerian who compares them to Hitler’s Nazis or Mussolini’s fascists, states that” it is not being suggested that Boko Haram is in anyway a revolutionary or “progressive” group, and describes them as “one of the macabre symptoms of the period we are living in”, and an article by an English woman who most people will have nothing to do with which calls BH a “terrorist group” and the kidnapping a “tragedy [which] touches the hearts of everyone, evoking a feeling of revulsion not only at the danger and loss of freedom itself, but at the assumption that for young girls their destination must be forced marriage and servitude, not education” while expressing “anger that so little has been done by the Nigerian government to find the girls” said ordinary people might be less than impressed..
    So is it reluctance to endorse western military intervention that makes one an apologist? Apparently not, since Coates says he opposes it. Is it reluctance to enthuse over the Nigerian government’s magnificent response to the abduction? You can’t be serious. This apologism really seems to come down to any attempt to analyse why groups like BH exist and thrive in terms of the socio-economic reality of Nigeria and the neoliberal world – issues like “deep inequality, conflicts over land, a local history of sectarian violence, tensions between an alienated Muslim north and Christian south, a global backwash of violent conservative ideologies, poor education, atrocities committed by the security forces” to quote another craven apologist, Jason Burke. Strangely enough, although I am not a Marxist, I thought analysing the socio-economic realities which underpin ideologies was what Marxists did – albeit usually in a crass and reductionist manner, if we are talking about the AWL. For you it seems to be something Marxists are opposed to. But maybe there is a special Marxist kind of indignity which somehow differs from that felt by Hillary Clinton or William Hague. And maybe instead of analysing the mass appeal of fascism Trotsky should have confined himself to simply stating that Hitler was a very bad man who made him feel indignant.

    puss wallgreen

    May 9, 2014 at 10:52 am

  21. Puss Willow.

    It’s always best to let your inner feelings out.

    I carry the Little Book of Calm around with me.

    It helps.

    Andrew Coates

    May 9, 2014 at 11:54 am

  22. Puss Wallgreen – game, set and match.

    Francis

    May 9, 2014 at 11:54 am

  23. There’s a difference between explaining and excusing/justifying. That difference isn’t always clear at first glance, but those of us familiar with Rees/German/Galloway/ STW know from experience (eg after 9/11, when they refused to use the word “condemn”) their attitude towards anti-Western forces of whatever stripe, and however barbaric, is *invariably* to excuse/justify.

    If noting this well-established fact us “crass and reductionist” then so be it. Better that than being a useful idiot.

    Jim Denham

    May 9, 2014 at 2:45 pm

  24. Yes, we’ve been here before haven’t we Jimbo, this magical power you have to divine what people are secretly or objectively thinking, often the very opposite of what they themselves claim to be thinking. I am sure all of that works very well in AWL debates, and possession of telepathic powers must cut a lot of costs. But in a democracy, as Joschka Fischer once said, you have to convince people, and people won’t be very convinced by clicking on a link which they are told is a full blooded apologia for Boko Haram only to find that in the actual article the group is characterized as terrorist and fascistic. Perhaps instead of linking to articles which inconveniently undermine your case you could simply link to a set of ready made confessions written by yourself, in which Milne, German and so on attest to their undying hatred of the West and love of all forms of terrorism. It would be no loss surreal than your current mode of operation.

    puss wallgreen

    May 9, 2014 at 6:58 pm

  25. I’d love to know who on the UK left has supported or sympathises with the actions of Boko Haram. Of course the ‘Cohen sympathisers’ can’t tell me, but they will tell me about some other atrocity where people were guilty because they were insufficiently outraged about some other atrocity, and so it goes, round-and round. That the guilty parties were insufficiently outraged has nothing to do with what they said, but they serve to provide a means to feel morally superior by the less than honest.

    Pinkie

    May 9, 2014 at 7:04 pm

  26. Interesting article here from a claimed former member of Boko Harem. I can’t vouch for its veracity but it feels plausible. It’s on http://www.edoziemcv.com, which is a Nigerian beauty pageant site run by a Nigerian student. The jihadist alleges that there is government involvement and cover ups going on (Quelle surprise!). Interesting that he claims he trained in Iran and groups were sent to various theatres of war. He became a Christian and recanted.

    Sue R

    May 9, 2014 at 10:37 pm

  27. A useful background piece here on the class basis of BH and other such terror groups; that they are a response by lumpen sections of Nigerian society which today’s capitalism has produced and continues to reproduce on a mass scale. This lumpen population, as it is not capable of developing organisations that a proper working class can build and which can struggle for social justice in a rational manner, ends up producing such terrorist groups. State repression can only temporarily subdue them as they have, whatever their irrational politics and actions, a material base in a lumpen social stratum that is continually reproduced. The article also looks at the distorted manner in which capitalism and social classes — including this big lumpen sector — have developed in Nigeria (and by implication many other countries) and the specificities of BH within this. Altogether, the piece tries to make sense of the rise and continued existence of a particularly irrational and reactionary movement.

    Dr Paul

    May 9, 2014 at 11:44 pm

  28. “Sometimes its important”

    Jim Denham nails the very basis of apologism is just 3 words! He truly is the king of apologism!

    Drone supporting leftism is nothing but propaganda, which Denham now admits, not for Denham penetrating analysis of events, just inane principles such as now and again we must condemn, which means now and again we shouldn’t condemn! So when hundreds of Muslims are slaughtered in Nigeria this is the time for principled socialists to keep quiet! In fact the only time principled socialists should support Islamists is when they are running amok in the interests of imperialism, e.g. in Syria and Libya! All hail the principled leftists!

    Tailing imperialism, following their narrative, showing total servility to the interests of the US empire, and showing steadfast support for the empires global objectives is not something any principled socialist or leftists should ever be doing.

    Socialism In One Bedroom

    May 10, 2014 at 2:23 pm

  29. Just made for you Beddy:

    “Have you ever noticed a calm person with a loud voice? Try and speak softly once in a while.
    – Manny, Black Books”

    “When you’re feeling under pressure, do something different. Roll up your sleeves, or eat an orange.
    – Manny, Black Books.”

    “When you rest, you are a king, surveying your estate. Look at the woodland. The peacocks on the lawn. Be the king of your own calm kingdom.
    – Manny, Black Books”

    The Little Book of Calm: https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Little-Book-of-Calm/112925382060394

    Andrew Coates

    May 10, 2014 at 4:32 pm

  30. So who on the European left sympathises with Boko Haram? Nobody, of course. However much you object to the term ‘Islamophobia’ (rightly I think) you are not going to prop up your view by accusing others of opinions they do not hold.

    Pinkie

    May 10, 2014 at 7:29 pm

  31. I am very calm actually, even in the face of so called leftists peddling lies and tailing imperialism. And if Jim Denham talking about principled leftism doesn’t bring a wry smile to ones face then nothing will! In fact I laughed my arse off!

    I notice that Jim Denham again links to an article as if it proves something he is claiming, when it fact it very much doesn’t! A typical ‘decent’ steadfast refusal to indulge in criticism and a dogmatic insistence on peddling black propaganda. I think Marx was for a ruthless criticism of everything, not drone supporting leftist propaganda!

    Now you can take issue with German’s stance, hopefully with a thorough critique, maybe line by line, of her position, dissecting her logic etc but simply linking to an article hoping we take uncle Jim’s word for it doesn’t count as ruthless critique.

    Incidentally, George Galloway was discussing Boko Haram on his TV show some months ago and was claiming Boko Haram was an Al Qaeda terrorist group, his guest was pointing out the underlying economic causes. I remember thinking at the time that Galloway was wrong. Galloway was actually taking a sort of decent ‘stance’, something you would expect Denham to peddle, and his guest was putting him right (in my opinion). So Galloway was actually condemning the group before drone supporting leftists! So much for Denham’s principled leftism! It is nothing but peddling lies!

    Anyway here is the link to Galloway discussing the group, Galloway’s agenda is to link the rising Islamism in Libya, Syria, aided by imperialism, to the situation in Nigeria. A difficult position to justify if you ask me. And Galloway finds himself in ‘decent’ territory by trying to take this stance:

    Socialism In One Bedroom

    May 11, 2014 at 11:16 am

  32. Yes, Jimbo, I am familiar with the German article which is why I quoted from it several times in my previous post to show how far it is from being an apologia for Boko Haram. Close reading of texts isn’t really your thing, is it? I am not even accusing you of conscious misrepresentation – I think your mind is in a kind of lock which means the red mist descends when you see the bylines of German or Milne and a completely fantastical reading of your own invention follows. It’s a bit reminiscent of Keith Talent in Martin Amis’s “London Fields”, his mind so addled by tabloid sports coverage that when he goes to a football game he actually sees the lanky winger reveling in the space who was always going to create problems for Palace’s makeshift back four.
    But for an example of craven pro-fascist apologism, what about the following?
    “The impressive “Bring Our Girls Home” social media campaign has succeeded in drawing attention to the audacious and cruel abduction of 276 schoolgirls by the Nigerian Islamist sect Boko Haram…
    …But we need to discuss the political conditions in which such an organisation takes root…Some on the socialist left have been more concerned to expose the (undoubted) hypocrisy of the west’s offers of help to find the girls…Other critical voices inside Nigeria have pointed out how the government failed to act before international attention forced it and how they have failed to tackle the sect over the last five years of murderous activities…
    Nigeria’s government has more than enough resources to crush Boko Haram. It does not need Western intervention!…. Undoubtedly poverty fuels the growth of Boko Haram and other Islamist and jihadist fragments (Boko Haram itself has a number of factions). In this oil rich country 61% of Nigerians live in absolute poverty on less than $1 a day. But the sect does not win recruits from the generality of the poor population in the north (one of the poorest areas in Nigeria). It recruits many of its members from the vast numbers of destitute children who are sent to Quranic schools….
    For much of the last decade the movement has had connections and/or a client relationship with local politicians and that, as much as anything, encouraged its growth…. Our job is to make solidarity with the many Nigerians who are fighting for the fundamental social and political change that will be needed to drive out Boko Haram.
    So let’s just tick off the boxes of appeasement and apology here. Characterisation of the taking of the girls as “abduction” (remember that in Nick Cohen’s article, which “nails it” in your view, this is the tell tale sign of an apologist)? Check (indeed the abduction is termed “audacious”, indicating obvious sympathy for BH). Denunciation of Western hypocrisy? Check. Opposition to Western intervention? Check. Denunciation of Nigerian government? Check. Location of BH’s development within social and economic crisis in Nigeria? Check. Implication that fundamental social and political solutions are necessary rather than military ones? Check. Lack of moralistic self-righteous indignation and fingerwagging? Check. The only problem is that the article in question appears on the AWL’s website. I’m sure your resignation letter is in the post, Jimbo.

    puss wallgreen

    May 17, 2014 at 1:02 pm

  33. Pinkie asks the question, does anyone on the left justify the actions of Boko Haram?

    Well, I don’t think we need imagine too much that there is a section of the left who would justify mass murder and kidnapping on the basis of liberating young girls. It should be noted here that the leader of Boko Haram, a very clever individual it must be noted, claimed that he was liberating the young girls from Christianity. Usually a noble cause for militant atheists!
    But back to the point, imagine the USA carpet bombing, say, a Muslim nation to liberate people from an evil tyrant or a Islamist group and imagine the US capturing many young girls from the Islamist group and putting them under the care of US authorities. Can anyone deny that the drone supporting leftists would not support this action wholeheartedly?

    You see there is not that much difference between drone supporting left decency and a group like Boko Haram. At the end of the day it just depends on who is liberating who from what!

    Socialism In One Bedroom

    May 18, 2014 at 9:49 am


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