SWP Conference, We Report the Stuff ‘Socialist Unity’ will not.
Lotta Continua‘s final conference gives some of the ambiance of the SWP Congress.
There has been a little to-do on our so-called rivals’ site, ‘Socialist Unity‘.
As nobody asked our opinion this is an excellent time to give it.
“Charlie Kimber To firstname.lastname@example.org
Dear Andy Newman,
I am shocked and outraged that you have published a transcript of the Disputes Committee session at the recent SWP conference. It is of course fundamentally an attack on the individuals involved and their right to speak openly about these events. They did so in the belief that what they said was for the people in the room only. You – and whoever sent you this information – have betrayed that trust.
Did it occur to you to contact anyone involved in the case, or any of the people who are readily identifiable from this transcript before you published it?
It is also an assault on the SWP, its democracy, and our attempts to deal with this issue fairly.
Organisations that have to deal with personal cases and allegations of this sort deserve the right to privacy about the details of the proceedings. Do you think that trade unions, for example, should publish transcripts of such cases?
I do not believe you are motivated by any considerations apart from a desire to damage the individuals involved, and the SWP, and to achieve tawdry publicity.
You should never have published the transcript and should take it down immediately.
Charlie Kimber , SWP national secretary.
Context is all,
I want to give a brief summary of the three complaints that we’ve had this year.
Comrade Alpha from Bristol was expelled from the party for domestic violence. Comrade Beta was suspended for six months for fighting in a nightclub and abusive behaviour, and because he breached his suspension that was extended for a further six months. Those two have not been disputed by the comrades involved, so I’m going to concentrate on the third case, and I’ll read out a brief summary of the decision that we came to.
In September 2012, a comrade who we’ve called W, a woman, made a complaint of rape against Comrade Delta, a member of the party’s central committee. The CC immediately asked Comrade Delta to stop all activity on behalf of the party until the complaint had been investigated. The disputes committee met over a period of four extended days in October 2012.
We agreed to use the standard legal definition of rape, but to also widen the remit of what we investigated to include questions of sexual assault, harassment and whether the relationship as a whole was abusive.
The disputes committee found that the charges were not proved. We didn’t think that Comrade Delta raped W. And it was not proved to the disputes committee that Comrade Delta had sexually assaulted, harassed or abused W.
We found it difficult to rule on these issues, because the versions of events differed substantially and there were no witnesses. The disputes committee didn’t recommend any disciplinary action against Comrade Delta, and that final report was backed by six out of seven of the panel members.
The seven members who were on that panel, who heard that complaint, were Rhetta M from Manchester, Maxine B from Sheffield, Dave S from Glasgow, Pat S and myself from London. (Candy forgot to name the two CC representatives also on the panel, Esme C and Amy L.) We’re all experienced comrades who are active in the party and a number of us have experience of dealing with people who have experience of rape or abuse.
The below appeared on the Web, before Newman and his minions got to work.
Obviously from a highly educated Oxbridge educated comrade we publish it in full.
My fuckin decision ta publish a redacted version of a transcript of tha part of tha SWP’s conference dealin wit tha report of tha disputes committee has proven controverisal, as I knew it would. Y’all KNOW dat shit, muthafucka! Before I go any further, let mah crazy ass share wit you a email from Charlie Kimber on behalf of tha SWP, which I be thinkin up in tha circumstizzlez is civil enough even though I don’t smoke wit it:
Charlie Kimber To email@example.com
Dear Andy Newman,
I be shocked n’ outraged dat you have published a transcript of tha Disputes Committee session all up in tha recent SWP conference. It be of course fundamentally a battle on tha individuals involved n’ they muthafuckin right ta drop a rhyme openly bout these events. They did so up in tha belief dat what tha fuck they holla’d was fo’ tha gangstas up in tha room only. Yo ass – n’ whoever busted you dis deetz – have betrayed dat trust.
Did it occur ta you ta contact every last muthafuckin muthafucka involved up in tha case, and any of tha gangstas whoz ass is readily identifiable from dis transcript before you published it?
It be also a assault on tha SWP, its democracy, n’ our attempts ta deal wit dis issue fairly.
Organisations dat have ta deal wit underground cases n’ allegationz of dis sort deserve tha muthafuckin right ta privacy bout tha detailz of tha proceedings. Do you be thinkin dat trade unions, fo’ example, should publish transcriptz of such cases, biatch?
I do not believe yo ass is motivated by any considerations apart from a thugged-out desire ta damage tha individuals involved, n’ tha SWP, n’ ta achieve tawdry publicity.
Yo ass should never have published tha transcript n’ should take it down immediately.
Charlie Kimber , SWP nationistic secretary
Let our asses start wit tha polistical context. Da SWP has been tha phattest far left crew up in Britain fo’ some time, n’ played a vital role up in tha launchin n’ sustained campaignin of tha Quit tha Battle Coalition, it has also been one of tha rollin forces up in campaignin against tha far right, all up in its participation up in Unite Against Fascizzle. It also has a relatively high profile, especially on universitizzle campuses, n’ fo’ nuff gangstas comin across tha SWP it is ghon be they first contact wit tha hoodist movement. It also has a limited but not unblingin footprint up in some unions.
What tha fuck iz more, whether our crazy-ass asses smoke wit they polistics and not, it aint nuthin but a cold-ass lil characteristic of tha British polistical scene dat despite they relatively lil’ small-ass size, tha outside left is dominizzled by Marxist crews like tha SWP n’ Socialist Party, n’ dis has a impact on tha practicalitizzlez of buildin tha left up in broader terms.
This year’s SWP conference saw a unusual degree of division, wit rival factions, alternatizzle slates fo’ tha Central Committee, a cold-ass lil clearly fractious rumour mill, n’ expulsionz of dissidents. What tha fuck iz significant is dat tha divisions have seemed ta take on a generationizzle aspect. Da vote on whether and not ta accept tha Disputes Committee report saw tha SWP conference split almost exactly down tha middle. In a organisation where votes is always unanimous up in favour of tha status quo, dis is effectively a thugged-out defeat fo’ tha current leadership, despite they narrow formal victory.
Da interest up in dis issue aint a prurient one cuz of tha nature of tha allegations yo, but a polistical one cuz tha Disputes Committee report was challenged n’ almost rejected.
Now while our crazy-ass asses would all prefer dat dis polistical dispute concerned a wholesome disgreement bout a issue like tha Syrian revolt, and whether and not ta support Len McCluskey, tha real ghetto issue dat has cleft tha SWP be a messy n’ unpleasant one concernin straight-up allegationz of sexuizzle impropriety, n’ tha preceived mishandlin of tha complaint by tha committee taxed wit resolvin dat shit. This has spilled over tha fuck into broader dissin of tha democratic deficit up in tha SWP, n’ has exposed a shitload of tha rather crude bullyin dat some SWP thugz feel they done been subjected to.
If tha SWP is facin a straight-up crisis, as seems likely, then dat iz of significizzle ta tha wider left, n’ tha actual nature of tha dispute cannot be contained. Y’all KNOW dat shit, muthafucka! Let our asses be clear, there has already been leakin by word of grill, n’ tha nature of tha allegations against a ballin’ SWP CC member has been circulatin around left activists n’ trade union officials fo’ a while. Furthermore it is clear dat even within tha SWP there is straight-up straight-up dison tha fuckin’ down-low bout tha way tha allegations was handled. Y’all KNOW dat shit, muthafucka! There was no puttin dis back up in tha box.
Once I received dis transcript up in a unsolicited email, I had ta decizzle whether ta publish and not. I decided dat whether I personally published it and not, then it would find its way onto tha Internizzle. Note dat Charlie Kimber do not dispute tha accuracy of tha transcript. By publishin it first I could at least ensure dat tha names was redacted. Y’all KNOW dat shit, muthafucka! In tha Internizzle age, closed sessionz of conferences is unsustainable.
But mo’ generally, I be thinkin there be a genuine hood interest up in publishing, so dat tha broader left appreciates what tha fuck tha SWP is consumin itself over, n’ up in providin tha accurate facts, rather than allowin rumour ta poison tha well. I believe it is mo’ betta fo’ tha entire transcript ta be published than fo’ it ta be selectively quoted. Y’all KNOW dat shit, muthafucka! Da way dat tha rap battle was conducted seemed fair, both sides was given a gangbangin’ fair hearing, n’ no inappropriate detail was revealed.
I reject utterly tha idea dat I have somehow breached a thugged-out duty of trust ta tha SWP, I have no such duty ta them. With regard ta a expectation of privacy, tha rap battle at SWP conference already restricted itself from discussin underground details, n’ tha rap battle concerned itself wit tha procesz of tha Disputes Committee investigation n’ report.
Nor is dis joint typically focused on dscussin tha SWP and other left groups; it aint nuthin but a topical issue fo’ tha left, n’ thereforre dat is bein reflected on dis B-ta-tha-L-O-Gizzay yo, but it is tha opposizzle within tha SWP, not mah dirty ass, whoz ass is rollin tha agenda here.
21 Responses ta ON THE CRISIS IN THE SWP
It’s indicatizzle of tha depth of tha malaise inside tha jam dat some muthafucka – presumably a elected conference delegate, biatch? – has gone ta tha shizzle of secretly recordin tha session then typin tha whole muthafuckin thang up n’ ‘leaking’ dat shit. Extraordinary.
“It be also a assault on tha SWP, it’s democracy n’ our attempts ta deal wit dis issue fairly”
Shitflash Charlie, you have no democracy inside tha SWP, cuz if you had then you would done been able ta “deal wit dis issue fairly” a long-ass time ago.
Instead there done been two muthafuckin yearz of lies n’ slander bout dem hoes whoz ass have done cooked up disses n’ every last muthafuckin muthafucka whoz ass dared ta support them.
Comrade Delta gots a standin ovation 2 muthafuckin years ago when these allegations was first publicly announced, you’re just pissed off dat dis time round some muthafucka had tha nous ta record tha “debate”.
Guess what, muthafucka! Save yo’ rancour fo’ yo’ own CC whoz ass put you up in dis posizzle up in tha straight-up original gangsta place, not fo’ a whistleblower whoz ass has done tha left a servicePosted by Had enough of dis BS 7 January, 2013 at 2:06 pm
“Let our asses be clear, there has already been leakin by word of grill, n’ tha nature of tha allegations against a ballin’ SWP CC member has been circulatin around left activists n’ trade union officials fo’ a while”.
“By publishin it first I could at least ensure dat tha names was redacted. Y’all KNOW dat shit, muthafucka! In tha Internizzle age, closed sessionz of conferences is unsustainable”.
Let our asses be equally clear dat SU has actively proliferated em rumours n’ allegations fo’ realz. As fo’ redacting, you have repeatedly allowed tha individual all up in tha centre of tha allegations ta be smeared n’ subjected ta hate-postings fo’ realz. And, as I commented on tha other thread, sayin dat that ‘it will inevitably step tha fuck up somewhere else on tha web, so it is OK fo’ a hoodist B-ta-tha-L-O-Gizzay ta publish it’, be a lamentable a-polistical defense. Mo’over do you straight-up be thinkin publishin dat transcript is necessary fo’ a thugged-out rap bout tha state of tha SWP, biatch? That is disingenous at best.
Guess what, muthafucka! Socialist Unitizzle needz ta be thinkin bout what tha fuck polistical standardz it seeks ta uphold: both up in relation ta tha kind of deetz dat hoodist organisations (and individuals) can reasonably expect ta be treated as private n’ what tha fuck constitutes appropriate material fo’ viewin n’ rap. I aint talkin’ bout chicken n’ gravy biatch. Current practice is woefully inadequate.Posted by Rorschach 7 January, 2013 at 2:07 pm
Newman yo ass is tha lowest of tha low. Publshin dis is indefensible fo’ every last muthafuckin muthafucka whoz ass fronts ta be any kind of hoodist. TAKE IT DOWN.Posted by disgusted 7 January, 2013 at 2:10 pm
#4 Yes I’m shizzle spittin some lyrics ta his ass lN CAPITALS is goin ta do dat shit.Posted by Vanya 7 January, 2013 at 2:18 pm
@4TAKE IT DOWN.
Fuck dat shit, please don’t, Andy.
Charlez Kimber (aka “Da Little Lord Fauntleroy” of Revolutionary Polistics) can feign mock outrage all he wants but all dis is is simply tha chickens comin home ta roost fo’ his thugged-out lil’ particular group. It all has a cold-ass lil certain inevitabilitizzle bout dat shit.
In tha mid 90′s I recall a ballin’ SWP straight-up legit (it was either Bambery and Harman) expressin grave mistrust n’ suspicion over tha then freshly smoked up n’ increasingly ghettofab internizzle; A rare case of prescience?Posted by Jellytot 7 January, 2013 at 2:27 pm
‘but it is tha opposizzle within tha SWP, not mah dirty ass, whoz ass is rollin tha agenda here.’
Andy, is you sayin dat tha thug whoz ass busted you tha e-mail represents tha opposition, biatch? That tha opposizzle would approve of such a act?Posted by stuart 7 January, 2013 at 2:30 pm
stuart: Andy, is you sayin dat tha thug whoz ass busted you tha e-mail represents tha opposition, biatch? That tha opposizzle would approve of such a act?
Clearly there be a thugged-out diversitizzle of opposizzle ta tha status quo up in tha SWP, n’ some muthafucka busted dis ta mah dirty ass.
Da process dat is unravelllin up in tha SWP is belng driven ta gangstas inside dat organisation.
Jack London had tha measure of this:
“After Dogg had finished tha rattlesnake, tha toad, n’ tha vampire, he had some wack substizzle left wit which he done cooked up a scab.
A scab be a two-legged animal wit a cold-ass lil corkscrew soul, a gin n juice dome, a cold-ass lil combination backbone of jelly n’ glue.
Where others have hearts, he carries a tumor of rotten principles.
When a scab comes down tha street, pimps turn they backs n’ angels weep up in heaven, n’ tha devil shuts tha gatez of hell ta keep his ass out.”Posted by chjh 7 January, 2013 at 2:34 pm
@3As fo’ redacting, you have repeatedly allowed tha individual all up in tha centre of tha allegations ta be smeared n’ subjected ta hate-postings.
Hate postings ?, muthafucka! A tad strong.
There has been some light mockin of his ” idiosyncratic” dress sense n’ his thugged-out lil’ penchant fo’ bustin “Harry Worth” spectacles.
Everythang else as been legitimate polistical criticizzlez of his bangin role as tha the defacto leader of a anti-fascist crew n’ tha tactics employed.
P.S. Right back up in yo muthafuckin ass. Smears aren’t straight-up smears if they is true up in substizzle.Posted by Jellytot 7 January, 2013 at 2:36 pm
It be one muthafuckin thang ta have misgivings on some report. It be like another ta support tha bustin of a transcript ta a utterly hostile blog. I be bloggin like a muthafucka up in dis biatch. When you rap bout ‘rollin tha agenda’, which particular agenda is you referrin to?Posted by stuart 7 January, 2013 at 2:39 pm
Da breach of trust here is yo’ duty ta a vulnerable lil’ biatch whoz ass has come forward wit da most thugged-out straight-up allegations n’ shown extraordinary bravery up in so bustin.
Guess what, muthafucka! Biatch had a thugged-out decision whether ta make her complaint hood within her party. That was her decision ta take. Right back up in yo muthafuckin ass. Biatch decided ta make her complaint there.
Yo ass have never axed her whether ta publish it ta tha ghetto. Right back up in yo muthafuckin ass. Y’all KNOW dat shit, muthafucka! Don’t it occur ta you dat there be any chizzle dat her ass may be mad upset by yo’ decision?
Please leave her alone n’ take it down.Posted by Anon 7 January, 2013 at 2:41 pm
Rorschach: both up in relation ta tha kind of deetz dat hoodist organisations (and individuals) can reasonably expect ta be treated as private n’ what tha fuck constitutes appropriate material fo’ viewin n’ rap. I aint talkin’ bout chicken n’ gravy biatch.
Well clearly conference proceedingz of a polistical organisation wit around 500 delegates up in tha room is not dat private.
What constitutes appropriate subject fo’ rap is tha lack of confidence dat all kindsa muthafuckin SWP delegates had fo’ tha report by tha Disputes Committee.
#9 As some muthafucka whoz ass has been threatened wit disciplinary action fo’ shoutin dat word on a picket line I would be straight-up interested ta know how tha fuck you be thinkin it applies here. I suspect Jack London would be scratchin his head.
#12 A rather unsubtle attempt ta obtain certain deetz there I think fo’ realz. A bit mo’ subtle than Stuart however.Posted by Vanya 7 January, 2013 at 2:58 pm
includes tha sentence
“In September 2012, a cold-ass lil comrade whoz ass we’ve called W, a biatch, done cooked up a cold-ass lil complaint of rape against Comrade Delta, a gangmember of tha party’s central committee.”
That is tha muthafuckin thang our crazy-ass asses should all be outraged bout n’ as ta whether tha SWP is tha fit n’ proper organisation ta carry up any investigation tha fuck into anythang approchin dis gravitizzle n’ seriousness.
That sentence alone should be enough ta rock any normal organisation ta its core.
I simply cannot peep how tha fuck Andy is tha villian up in dis affair. IMO tha attacks on Andy (and tha recent criticizzlez of Galloway from tha SWP) have somethang of a thugged-out diversionary tactic ta them.Posted by Jellytot 7 January, 2013 at 3:03 pm
Da SWP rockin a thugged-out diversion, biatch? Surely not. Now shut tha fuck up bout internal shiznit especially if you’re not a member/hostile/sectarian n’ lets build tha class struggle, muthafucka! Muthafuckas is supa pissed n’ its always urgent, muthafucka! Join tha SWP, muthafucka! Nazis off our streets, muthafucka! Git tha Tory scum out, muthafucka! (ahem)
I have given gangstas tha opportunitizzle ta express they disapproval of mah crazy ass fo’ publishin this, which is why i left comments open fo’ a while.
I cannot peep dat there be anytin ta be gained up in prolongin what tha fuck could turn like fractious.
stuart: But would you accept dat if tha opposizzle is SWP members, they agenda cannot possibly have included tha bustin of transcripts ta a hostile blog?
Well tha evidence of our own senses is dat some muthafucka whoz ass was a thugged-out delegate and straight-up legit observer ta SWP conference did record it, n’ bust it ta mah dirty ass. becasue dat is what tha fuck muthafuckin happened.