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SWP Descends to Threats.

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Gerry Healy: Gone but Not Forgotten!

Just been threatened by the new  Suffolk SWP cadre.

This individual cancelled a meeting of the ‘Right to Work’ campaign – at very short notice. So short I only heard of it half an hour before it was due. Too late to inform one person, who was busy walking from the Chantry Estate (he is suspended from the Dole, bus costs £1.80 each way). A long trudge through the drizzle. I had to go and meet him at the arranged place to say it was cancelled.

Naturally I was angry.

Next day saw said ‘cadre’ flogging paper outside College.

Expressed said anger.

Just now ‘cadre’ came up to me in Library. Seething with rage. Not welcome at Right to Work (bye-bye that!). Groans about my talking him in such a way. Brief explanation. Face contorts. Apparently I am a ‘bittter (heaven forfend)) sectarian”. Then suggests that I “come outside” for a “full and frank discussion” of this. “Are you threatening me?” “No” Body language says otherwise.

One cannot help but think that their little recent contretemps has affected the way the Party behaves.

SWP…WRP here we come!

Written by Andrew Coates

February 24, 2010 at 1:55 pm

Posted in Sectarianism, SWP

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  1. Don’t you think you might be over-estimating the significance of some bloke getting lairy with you?

    Lobby Ludd

    February 25, 2010 at 12:35 am

  2. Defend the Ipswich One!

    Down with the Conciliators!!

    wcg,
    Edward Ford

    Edward Ford

    February 25, 2010 at 9:34 am

  3. Lobby, No.

    It is one in a long line of experiences that people have had with the more fanatical members of the SWP.

    Andrew Coates

    February 25, 2010 at 10:22 am

  4. Unfortunately Andrew isn’t the first to experience the SWP’s dialectical materialism!

    Strange how the SWP are dictating who is and is not welcome at Right to Work meetings. I thought it was an independent campaign!

    Yes I don’t suppose their cadre is too happy at the moment.

    Tony Greenstein

    February 26, 2010 at 12:51 am

  5. Sorry, but I still think this is over-blown.

    A putative threat of violence, but no actual violence, and other claims that this is not uncommon behaviour does not amount to “SWP…WRP here we come!”.

    The degeneration of the WRP, the abuses of Healy and the institutional inability of the WRP to deal with them ‘ab initio’, are rather more significant than someone being rude to Andrew Coates.

    Lobby Ludd

    February 26, 2010 at 9:28 pm

  6. Maybe not Luddy. But it is hardly ‘best practice’ and I could have added a lot more about their behaviour towards a whole range of people that I have not.

    Andrew Coates

    February 27, 2010 at 10:57 am

  7. The degeneration of the WRP, the abuses of Healy and the institutional inability of the WRP to deal with them ‘ab initio’, are rather more significant than someone being rude to Andrew Coates.

    I had to smile when I read this as it typifies sections of the English lefts inability to emphase with almost anyone who is not on their wavelength.

    Think this one through, someone feels intimidated or bullied/whatever, yet according to Luddy they should keep stum and remember the degeneration of the WRP, the abuses of Healy was rather more significant.

    Significant for whom, no one gives a fuck about what Healy may or may not have got up to, as he represented no one but himself and his sect. I doubt even most of those who were members give him much thought these day.

    If people feel they have the right to behave in a despicable way to other comrades because they differ over what is nothing more than a re-run, of a re-run of a re-run of a campaign, which failed dismally the first time around and it was down hill from then.

    Think how they might behave were by some miracle to gain real power.

    Mickhall

    March 7, 2010 at 12:24 am

  8. Thanks Mick. If I understand you you’re saying that some are arguing that “it was worse with the WRP”. So we ought to shut up. Heavens, it was no doubt even worse with the GPU and Pol Pot, so why complain at all….

    I have a low tolerance for people who try to impose themselves in campaigns and the left generally, and particularly low patience with anyone who seems to act as if politics should be arranged to suit them.

    I am not going to keep silent about this kind of behaviour.

    We all have witnessed this, and it’s certainly not the first time that the SWP in my direct experience have tried to get their way by throwing wobblies etc.

    Frankly I do not have the time for it. Especially when it comes from ‘revolutionaries’ who have not the slightest idea of what their ideology means in practice.

    And,if the Right to Work Conference worked out quite well as a union rally, it is as you say, Mick, a tired and failed way of campaigning about unemployment and welfare rights.

    A (nother) Right to Work March… Cor help us.

    Andrew Coates

    March 7, 2010 at 1:09 pm

  9. Mick:

    “Think this one through, someone feels intimidated or bullied/whatever, yet according to Luddy they should keep stum and remember the degeneration of the WRP, the abuses of Healy was rather more significant.”

    The thing is, Mick, I did not raise the comparison with the WRP, Andrew did. I said, and am saying, that I do not think that this is a fair comparison.

    Plainly bullying behaviour on the left (or anywhere) is unacceptable, but unfortunately this is not an episode that readers of this blog can make a fair judgement on – we weren’t there.

    To say “SWP…WRP here we come!” is not trivial, and is not the kind of thing that should be said lightly.

    Mick, I have thought this one through, which is why I wrote as I did.

    Lobby Ludd

    March 7, 2010 at 10:18 pm

  10. Andrew, I am not arguing that because it was worse with X, Y or Z that you should shut up. I too have a low tolerance of bullying. I do think, however, that you should distinguish between a bullying individual and a bullying organisation.

    Lobby Ludd

    March 7, 2010 at 11:34 pm


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