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Roma Expulsions Continue: La Honte de la France.

Posted in French Politics, Racism, Sarkozy by Andrew Coates on August 26, 2010

 

Are these Not Human Beings Who Merit Love, not Hate?

Deux avions ”spécialement affrétés” ont décollé à destination de Bucarest en pleine visite de deux ministres roumains à Paris. 

here.

Archbishop of Paris concerned about Gypsy crackdown as expulsions continue

By Angela Doland (CP) – 22 minutes ago 

PARIS — The archbishop of Paris added to mounting criticism of France’s crackdown on Gypsies, referring to the operation as a “circus” and saying Thursday he would tell the government that there are lines that cannot be crossed. 

Meanwhile, France expelled more Gypsies, or Roma, on Thursday, 

Here

This is a complete and utter scandal.

Those of us who deeply  love France and its people are feeling something is going terribly wrong.

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  1. Hywel Nostrodamus said, on August 26, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    QUESTION
    “What does one call a thousand tzigani expelled from La Belle France?”

    ANSWER
    “A good start.”

  2. Andrew Coates said, on August 26, 2010 at 4:37 pm

    My Devil Hywel if you were next to me now you would get une bonne raclée!

  3. Pete Shield said, on August 26, 2010 at 4:39 pm

    In 1979 the author Christian Bernadac noted L’Holocauste oublie:le massacre des Tsigane (The fFrgotten Holocaust:Massacre of the Gypsies) the presence of the family Scharkosi, originally from an Austrian village, in the community of Tsiganes deported to Dachau in the summer of 1938.

    Also in Auschwitz where thousands of Tsiganes were collected he highlights a chief of the tsiganes called Martin Sarkosi, originally from the Austrian village of Unterwalt.

    No mention there of the aristocratic lines of the Nagy-Bosca which President Sarko has been known to drop into casual conversion.

    Also I wonder what Nicolas ex-wife Cecilia thinks of all this, she is through her father of Romanian descent of the family Ciganer (Translation,erm Tsigane).

    Of course as Nicolas is so very unpopular at home he tends to spend his time jetting around, making him of course a jet setting type of ‘gens du voyage’. To cap it all this itinerant gypsy immigrant is up to his neck in illegal party funding, making him a criminal itinerant gypsy immigrant.

    Has someone told minister Hortefeux about this?

    We await the President’s deportation with baited breath.

  4. Andrew Coates said, on August 26, 2010 at 4:47 pm

    One imagines that if Sarko had mentioned this in Neuilly-sur-Seine it would not have gone down well…

  5. Pete Shield said, on August 26, 2010 at 4:48 pm

    Not of course that I in anyway support the expulsions- but what’s sauce for the goose is sauce for gander after all.

  6. shane said, on August 26, 2010 at 9:35 pm

    Isn’t this against EU rules on Freedom of Movement? These Roma are Romanian citizens surely?

  7. Pete Shield said, on August 27, 2010 at 10:47 am

    The Roma as Shane says are indeed Romanian citizens, which allows them to enter France|(and Italy which has been expelling them as well) legally, for tourism purposes and if they want to work they need to apply for a work visa.

    The problem with getting a work visa is you need an increasingly very rare thing called a CDI- and unlimited work contract- getting a CDI (Contract duration indetemine) nowadays is very difficult for unskilled or semi-skilled workers as most employers are issuing a series of CDD (contract duration determine)- then when the allocated time runs out hiring someone new. This is really messing up people’s lives as without a CDI it is very difficult to get someone to rent you a flat, open a bank account etc. Young French people are being hit by this hard, and the Roma a lot harder.

    In the case of the Roma they tend to do seasonal work- grape picking, fruit picking, building work on the black etc working for employers who, shall we say, have a rather chevalier attitude towards issuing contracts, paying social security, indeed even paying the minimum wage. Which means that a large minority of the estimated 14,000 Roma in the country are unable to get a work permit.

    Instead of actually sorting out the dodgy employers the Government is taking the popularist route of blatant racism- the figures show that around 58% of the general French population support such gutter politics, but a sizable minority 42% oppose it.

  8. BobFromBrockley said, on August 27, 2010 at 6:12 pm

    Watching the images on the television news last night of the roads being blocked, the camps being dismantled, the people herded into trucks, was horrifying both in the sense that it is a moral outrage, but also because it seemed to signal a descent into barbarism that seemed almost hard to believe. Our western european media likes to tell us this sort of thing happens elsewhere not here.

    This may not immediately on the cards in the UK, but the rising levels of viscious racism against Travellers here in the last decade is palpable, as well as the racism against Eastern and Central Europeans. And these racisms, unlike anti-black raacism, antisemitism and Islamophobia, are completely acceptable in almost all public discourse. No on if offended at words like “pikey”.

  9. BobFromBrockley said, on August 27, 2010 at 6:13 pm

    Sorry, I meant no one IS offended.

  10. Andrew Coates said, on August 28, 2010 at 9:35 am

    I have deleted the latest racist comments of Hywel Nostrodamus.

  11. Andrew Coates said, on August 28, 2010 at 9:43 am

    Peter I am glad you have brought this kind of detail to our attention.

    As someone who has worked in France, even under EU rules I needed a Carte de Séjour to get things like a bank account. Or just stuff like a library card.

    This required a Passport, and then, Birth Certificate (in Paris acceptable at the time in three European languages apart from French: English, Italian and Spanish). Proof of residence. Proof of work. Plus letter from a French citizen who could vouch for me (not difficult as my partner was a French woman).

    I spent pratically the whole day queuing to get this.

    The initial Carte was for three months.

    It was then renewed for six months.

    Then for a year.

    Each time requiring more queueing – real queues not your Sainsbury’s check-out stuff.

    Then Mitterrand gave us all 10 year Cartes.

    At one point I worked for the state as a TEFL teacher in the Institut National de la Propriété Industrielle (though most of my work with the private sector, mainly, believe it or not, with Bankers).

    This required me registering with the commissariat of the 18eme-arrondissement, and giving stuff like my degree to them.

    I would not imagined that that these kinds of rules are in fact simple for anyone.

    Least of all Roma.

  12. Bob said, on August 28, 2010 at 10:02 am

    Recommended reading: http://fleshisgrass.wordpress.com/2010/08/27/unlucky-roads/

  13. Pete Shield said, on August 28, 2010 at 11:27 am

    Andrew the CdS is still in existence, but it is being phased out -not really necessary nowadays if you have another form of identity such as a driving licence. Its handy if you are signing big cheques when you need two pieces of identity. I haven’t bothered to renew mine as I haven’t been asked for it for 5 years or so.

    Bob- that was a superb article- thanks for the link.

    Hywel… yawn.

  14. Andrew Coates said, on August 28, 2010 at 2:28 pm

    Hywel Nostrodamus is now barred from this list.

    Connard de raciste.

  15. Edna W. said, on August 28, 2010 at 5:01 pm

    Can’t the Roma expelled from France be airifted to East Anglia?

    The locals would welcome them with cries of delight!

  16. Lowestoft's Finest said, on August 28, 2010 at 7:19 pm

    Many thanks Edna W. please now provide us with your real postcode so we can look for the suitable atchen tans nearest your home, Google Earth being by far preffered for this than any old school crystal ball.


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